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Old 07-04-2012, 06:59 AM   #1
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6 max turbo, HU win %

Hello, I'm playing on a very fishy site where 90% of players are complete donks and mb around 5% actually know something about icm. My question is, what win % would you expect in 6max turbos HU phase against those kind of opponents? In the last 873 HU's that I've been tracking, I've won only 295. I didn't include the tournaments where I've made wrong plays. Almost all of these are push/fold and I've analyzed every decision in sng wizard after finishing. I don't use Nash or Sage, only sng wiz. What do you think, is there a possibility that the site has some kind of tweaked rng or anything like that? I mean, it's pretty crazy... Hope my english is fine and that you understood everything. Thx in advance.
And btw, the site is dbg, dollaro poker network.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:10 AM   #2
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Re: 6 max turbo, HU win %

Probably sample size problem.

Also its unclear whether you are good or not, maybe you dont play bubble correctly and because of that you start HU with smaller stack always. And stack size is determining factor of % of first places, even if you play better.

If anything 873 HU sample is really dependant on various luck factors for 6 max turbo, so could be just some unlucky run.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:57 PM   #3
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Re: 6 max turbo, HU win %

If the players are as bad as you describe then I would imagine you'd start off shorter quite a bit, as they'll clash with eachother and be flinging stacks around left and right while we'll have to tighten up just a tad to make our bubble play the most profitable.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:05 AM   #4
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Re: 6 max turbo, HU win %

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If the players are as bad as you describe then I would imagine you'd start off shorter quite a bit, as they'll clash with eachother and be flinging stacks around left and right while we'll have to tighten up just a tad to make our bubble play the most profitable.
yea, that's the reason I start shorter mostly... so, you're sayin', 30% HU win rate is normal for those conditions? or not?
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:29 PM   #5
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Re: 6 max turbo, HU win %

I have about 8k 6-max games that have gone heads up and I'm have about 100 more second place finishes than first place finishes. The thing is that during those games, I NEVER deviated from what I found to be the "unexploitable" pushing and calling ranges up. What I did not realize though is that unexploitable has little to do with most profitable. While you may be playing in such a style that no opponent can increase their edge from you, it may in fact be causing you to play below 50%. A few thousand games ago i realized that the most profitable strategy is one that is always changing and deviating based on your opponents. If the players are quite fishy on the site you play on, try shipping any two cards from the small blind ( still fold 82 72 62 52 42 32 though). It's actually a quite profitable strategy if the players are calling heads up a little too tight. You will get stuck in situations with things like 74 vs K10 when your opponent does call, but that in no way means the decision is wrong. On the other hand if your opponents call closer to what is actually the optimal range, then you should tighten up your pushes to the optimal range.
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