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4 hands - Am I folding too much? 4 hands - Am I folding too much?

05-01-2017 , 02:11 AM
These are some spots that are giving me trouble. I have been thinking about these and am still not sure if I played correctly or if my thoughts on the hands are correct and would like some feedback.

Hand 1

$5.50 6-person SNG on bubble

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NL Holdem $-200(BB)
SB ($4410)
HERO ($4555)
CO ($2125)
BTN ($2410)

Hero and V have both been most active on table

Dealt to Hero Q 8

CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $300 (Rem. Stack: 4010), HERO Calls $200 (Rem. Stack: 4155)

Flop ($800) 6 A 4
SB Checks, HERO Bets $375 (Rem. Stack: 3780), SB Calls $375 (Rem. Stack: 3635)

Turn ($1550) 6 A 4 8
SB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($1550) 6 A 4 8 4
SB Bets $1550 (Rem. Stack: 2085), HERO Folds

SB wins $3100

I beat a bluff, a 6, and low pocket pairs ... but V probably wouldn't play those this way right? Perhaps I should have bet the turn to avoid this situation?

Hand 2

$5.50 6-person SNG

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NL Holdem $-400(BB)
HERO ($7480)
SB ($6020)

Villain was tight through early play and opened up once in money. PFR 9.1 over 77 hands

Dealt to Hero A 2

HERO Raises To $700 (Rem. Stack: 6540), SB $5580 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), HERO Folds

SB wins $6960

I figured here at best I am racing ... this is a simple spot right? I have a big skill edge but we are also so short. He has seem me pretty active, could be playing back with some broadways or ?

Hand 3

$5.50 6-person SNG

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NL Holdem $-100(BB)
SB ($1150)
BB ($3977)
HJ ($830)
HERO ($3695)
BTN ($3848)

Dealt to Hero 9 A

HJ Calls $100 (Rem. Stack: 730), HERO Calls $100 (Rem. Stack: 3595), BTN Calls $100 (Rem. Stack: 3748), SB Folds, BB Checks

Flop ($450) K 2 6
BB Checks, HJ Checks, HERO Bets $225 (Rem. Stack: 3370), BTN Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $225 (Rem. Stack: 505)

Turn ($900) K 2 6 K
HJ $505 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0), HERO Folds

HJ wins $1405

Is this just a raise pre or fold pre thing? Pretty sure I can't call this as we saw the flop 4-ways. Have not seen any big limped hands or anything tricky from this table.

Hand 4

$5.50 9-person SNG

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NL Holdem $-30(BB)
MP ($4235)
HJ ($2815)
HERO ($930)
BTN ($965)
SB ($1590)
BB ($1515)
UTG ($1450)

Dealt to Hero J A

UTG Folds, MP Folds, HJ Raises To $120 (Rem. Stack: 2695), HERO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

HJ wins $165

The 4bb raise was fishy, V was generally opening smaller. Should I have called or raised or is this a good fold? Calling seems potentially marginal and if I raise I should be raising to ~320-380 at which point I'm basically committed, so an all-in would seem more appropriate, but all-in with AJ doesn't seem like where I want to be.
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05-01-2017 , 08:09 AM
I think that you have to call on hand4

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05-01-2017 , 03:19 PM
Hand 1 I would Call.
He could have floated the flop with anything and your check on the turn was also good as it keeps bluffs in his range of hands and invites a bluff on the river. His river sizing is polarizing and i don't see what monsters he may have in this situation. If he is active as you state then i would call here all day even with the scary sizing.

Hand 2 I would fold when you are that deep and they are tight. Less variance to just grind down an overly tight play heads up.

Hand 3 is tough as played, i would have shoved prflop after HJ called.

Hand 4 is fishy with the 4x raise and you said it wasn't typicaly. Low stakes players don't worry about balance and this could be a huge tell. I think it was good you folded AJ given how deep you were.
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05-09-2017 , 02:08 AM
First thing, use the normal hand converter in "new thread". Your HUD should still give you the original text which you can paste into the 2p2 hand converter. For example hand 1 preflop "SB Raises To $300 (Rem. Stack: 4010)" Given the original stack sizes this seems to mean "SB puts in 300 and that's a raise" - but it's a raise "to 400" or "by 200".

1. I don't see that he plays his value hands like this either. I'd look him up here.

2. Call it off unless he's terrible and and you are good HU. A flip with odds in your favour is all you can hope for in an SNG. Also why raise to 900 here rather than 800?

3. Any stats on HJ? Tempted to iso pre. We are too deep against the other players to jam, just 4x it and you are effectively all in against HJ anyway. Turn action sucks but we probably have the right odds given we could sometimes be ahead

4. Meh. I'd call and see if he continues this post flop. We have position.
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05-09-2017 , 03:12 AM
2 - raise to 900 to encourage a little bit more folding. Is there any extensive analysis/info of optimal open sizes & reasoning?

3 - HJ over 64 hands is 18.8 VPIP 3.1 PFR 3B 3.6 AG 37.5 CB 100 FCB 66.7 WWSF 66.7.
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05-09-2017 , 03:39 AM
2. It depends if he's flatting much but generally I don't mind if people flat OOP in order to fold to a c-bet.
If you take a package like HRC and restrict BB to jamming or folding and give SB a choice of fold, 800 or 900 then SB will prefer 800 to 900.

3. Then 4x it pre-flop.
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05-09-2017 , 06:43 AM
I preface this by also saying I think I probably overfold.

Hand1- I'm surprised so many people advocate a pot sized river call. SB raising pre, and then check calling flop sets alarm bells off for me. These are difficult spots to hero call because his preflop range could be almost ATC. From my experience I am good here less than 50% needed to make the call.

Hand 2 - very read depended. Fine to fold.

Hand 3 - mistake was overlimping pre. As played call and fold are probably about equal.

Hand 4 - don't like flatting pre flop - likely to miss flop and even if u hit A or J your never sure if u bluff catching or getting value owned by dominating hands. Also hate 3bet gii so I like a fold.





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05-09-2017 , 06:55 AM
1. You need 33% equity to make the call. 50% would be the % he needs to get it through if this is a bluff.
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05-09-2017 , 09:17 AM
I just rushed thru the hands, u need to provide all reads u have on villain. If it's just over 10 hands or sth, that's already way better than no read at all.
E.g. hand 1 u can be up against a 10% or 100% range, who knows? It kinda matters for what to do
Vs random prob bet the flop smaller, unlikely rnd folds to 1/2 pot but calls 1/3 or sth. And is this really a bubble 4handed in a 6m SnG btw? Would be really flat payouts.
Anyway fold river there, c/c flop and potbet river should very rarely be a bluff. If he likes bluffing, why wouldn't he bet a dry A high flop?

Last edited by LeaksSuck; 05-09-2017 at 09:24 AM.
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05-10-2017 , 06:21 AM
As per hand 4, that type of bet sizing is sometimes a tell. I've found a lot of small stakes tournament players will 4x with medium pairs in middle positions or 4x with Jacks in early positions. I'd be tempted to 3bet and run over them on the flop. They don't want to lose with them and tend to overbet them.
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