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Old 07-22-2012, 11:29 AM   #1
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$3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

With 66 in BTN and my stack size, I'm always shove.
But today I use SNG wizard to calculate, the result shocked me. I give SB 12% calling range, BB 20% calling range. and SNG wizard tell me that I can only shove with 6%(88+,AJ+). What's going on? Should I really fold 66/77/AT/A9s?? I 'm confused right now.


    Poker Stars, $3.11 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 1,690 (11.3 bb)
    BB: 4,180 (27.9 bb)
    CO: 5,418 (36.1 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 2,212 (14.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 6
    CO folds, Hero raises to 2,212 and is all-in, 2 folds

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    Old 07-22-2012, 12:10 PM   #2
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    E) None of the above, raise and fold to shove from BB. Only time to fold is if we are quite sure the BB will pwn our raise. Then fold I suppose, or maybe even r/f (this or some other hand for balance).
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    Old 07-23-2012, 12:09 AM   #3
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    Calling ranges are way tighter than that.
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    Old 07-23-2012, 01:17 AM   #4
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    shove.
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    Old 07-23-2012, 04:46 AM   #5
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    Shoving here seems good!
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    Old 07-23-2012, 07:52 AM   #6
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    since u didnt post, obv this is full ring? Also, besides ranges specific reads on SB/BB would be nice too.

    If fr, guess the calling range of BB is pretty wide since u have quite some FE (or risk averse) on villain(s). Would expect him not to call you >9% ish

    Same - but smaller difference - for SB's range. Though being short would give him a somewhat wider range, with still >10bb left (and being BTN next) I think he'll have some room for doing stuff.

    Meh think I like a minr/c for SB and minr/f for BB best.
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    Old 07-23-2012, 11:44 AM   #7
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    It is fullring.
    If the range I give is correct. Should I really trust SNG wizard's advice fold my 66?
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    Old 07-24-2012, 02:54 AM   #8
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

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    Should I really trust SNG wizard's advice fold my 66?
    why not? SNGwizz calculates a EV situation. If ranges are 100% correct (which is impossible imo) then its a long term +EV fold.

    Only reason not to do / ignore wizz is when the increasing blinds catch up with u (this is one thing SNGwizz never accounts for), but I think 200-400 isn't the end of the world yet with the other shorty around.
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    Old 07-24-2012, 05:28 AM   #9
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    I tend to ignore wiz when the difference between me and shorty is very small. If they pick up the blinds 1 or 2 times, you guys have the same stack. You are not so far ahead of the shorty that you can wait for them to blind out. This is why I think you should shove here and widen your gap against shorty.
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    Old 07-24-2012, 09:25 AM   #10
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    push/fold ftw?

    r/f r/c ftw.learn that

    this spot is r/f
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    Old 07-24-2012, 10:42 AM   #11
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    Re: $3.5 SNG on PS, BTN 15BB fold 66?

    OK,I start thinking shoveing is wrong, maybe I'm a liitle looseaggresive. But I want to know what range you guys think that SB and BB will
    1. call my shove(not at the same time)
    2. I raise 2BB, SB shove or BB shove
    Let's say both villain not fish
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