Nash has nothing to say about individual hands for reasons that would be obvious if you had actually read and understood my post.

Then pls esplain to me what I am missing in little people talk. Granted my reading comprehension is a bit lol at times, I read though this giant wall of text at least twice, as afaik you are saying we shouldn't trust our reads and should default to an unexploitable strategy. Maybe you aren't using small enough words for me to understand.

But it does say. Nash range is a range of individual hands that are profitable shoves/calls vs a Nash range. Nash is also the only profitable range to play vs Nash because if you change an action you are making a worse play than Nash, like let's say calling Q6s is +.1 better than folding vs Nash folding is clearly a mistake. If your opponent changes his strategy from Nash to X you have to find a strategy where you do the most profitable action vs X with each individual hand and from that follows that your strategy is optimal vs X. Vs a tight range it's obvious that with Q6s calling is worse than folding and. If your opponent is tighter than Nash by a lot then always having Q6s and calling vs his strategy is more profitable than always having/caling Q6s vs Nash, but having Q6s and folding itvs his tight strategy is even more profitable

Someone wanted numbers so here's some of our strategy with always having Q6s vs a static range 10bb deep (we posted our bb already so we have 9bb behind)

20% range
EV of folding is 10.2bb
calling 9.852bb

60% range
fold 9.6bb
call 9.624bb

100% range
fold 9bb
call 10.72bb

Only reason to deviate from the higher ev play is that we could change our opponents strategy but in this case or the KK+ case we couldn't

great post. I learned something new and have some things to think about and study. thank you.

Thanks for this

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I didnt read this yet. The principals op refers to have still effect?

Other than understanding that unexploitable is not always the same as optimal, yes.

Of course I do understand that and touched on it.

nice post Banana

I always thought Q7s was a monster HU with 10 bbs, nice to see that confirmed mathematically from various perspectives

can i ask whether you would share your HU winrate in bbs and as a %, assuming you have probably have a significant sample? also what is the standard deviation HU if we assume player a and player b are of equal skill? The variance HU seems huuuuuge and I have read a few HUSNG pro players blogs where they talk about this

Finally how much does your winrate HU effect your overall roi in 6max stts 65%/35% payour compared to a 60%/40% payout?

I remember the first time I read this post, <3
Good to see it on first page again!