These goddamn Canadians come into our country and take all the good American butt jobs

Did he actually come in to the country? Just in case:

FYP

TRUMP gonna bring all the outsourced butt work back home.

Unfortunately no word from Ellen yet. Also no word from IMG Models new "Brawn" division, even though the pres of IMG models posted one of our photos on Instagram, god damn. It's been a surreal time. Is anyone here an agent of butt models and can get me some more work?

We need to get you leading the marketing campaign for the golfing-line. The sweat and chafe can get uncomfortable on those hot summer days...

I'd call the Kardashians. They'll get you an agent, or a good butt-plumping. Whatever it takes, right?

What a sellout

I heard it was an implant

It has been a while so I thought I'd share an update:



Kelly Kapowski is still hot.

Fml images are hard: https://imgur.com/S20XDGX

meh, those knees.

She's 42! She gets a pass for her knee game. If her elbows were too pointy however, that's another story.

That's what some plastic enhancements can do..

On another subject: have a €69 bet at Betfair for Bernie to be the next US prez @30.01. Now I don't think he will actually win (he should though), but odds were clearly off. In the meantime line moved to @16 (been @11 week earlier). Obv NY primary will have a significant impact on this bet.
So question is, do you think he has a shot in NY? It seems clear that all polls have been way off thus far, so as a foreigner it's hard to judge.


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As a New Yorker working in New Yorker politics, no, Bernie won't win the NY primary. I think it will be closer than the polls show but I don't think he can win.

I hope your wrong, hoping, hoping....

Donno though. He has been gaining on his poll numbers significantly in the couple weeks leading up to the primaries, basically once all the ads and rallies get going. Enough though, donno

Both sides, Left or Right... Worst Presidential election ever. None of them are worthy, qualified or able to be trusted to lead. Going to be a comical 4 years no matter what.

I would love it if we could talk politics. I'm very into it this year and I think we can respect each other around here.

I love Bernie for what I think is authenticity, integrity and campaign finance reform more than for being a big commie.

He's super unlikely to win in NY. The polls have been fairly stable and while he's often beaten the polls, I think there's been too much and too consistent polling lately. I think maybe because the polls favor people who answer the phone (older people) he may beat them by 6pts or so and end up losing by 4-10pts maybe.

It's all about turnout, but regardless of the excitement, the <30s probably aren't going to turn out enough, but hopefully they'll surprise me.

I feel Bernie, like Obi Wan, could possibly end up being more powerful if he loses. If he focused on campaign finance reform he could make it a winning issue as a Senator or even out of office.

Republican party is obviously more messed up at the moment, but there could be a very big realignment going on now and it could change the Democratic party as much as the Republican. Hillary is going to win in all likelihood, but 2020 could be weirder than 2016.

The thing with Bernie and his excitement is that it's really just coming from the younger demographic, which NY as a state isn't going to turn out. Will Bernie win districts in Brooklyn and Manhattan? For sure. The operation being run here with local volunteers and organizers is great. But New York is a big state and more moderate than people think, and those are gonna be Hillary votes.

I also agree with micro that he's more powerful in a loss. What's great about Bernie is the campaign he's running. Not necessarily the idea of him as a president though.

Hmm, that probably means I need to cash out on the bet. Thanks guys.
Will still be rooting for Bernie to win, as he seems to be the only authentic candidate and he makes a lot of sense.


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I mean, crazier things have happened, you got what, 30:1 odds? Those odds aren't that bad, I just don't think he's gonna win NY

When Trump first started his run for the Presidency, I was sure that it was merely a stunt of sorts. One meant to "change the face of politics", not a serious run for the office. I still think that his original intent was to shine a light on the status quo by being over the top and illustrating the foibles of our recent administrations.

Overall, me thinks that Trump is more surprised than anyone else that his campaign became "legit". For what it's worth, he's in it now (in for a penny, in for a dollar). Regardless, his run for the office has changed traditional political tactics at the very least.

Both sides are struggling to figure out how to act/react, and it's going badly...

Politics huh, ok micro, but this is likely to be long.

I don't think anything else matters anymore if we can't get rid of the legal corruption. We have bought and payed for parties that run baught and payed for candidates into a baught and payed for government. Until we fix that and have representatives working for their constituents we can't fix anything.

The social issues, gun control, abortion, gay marriage, religion, etc, etc, are largely the circus that goes on so we don't pay attention to the subtle changes that go on constantly that benefit special interests (the people that payed all that money to buy the government). I'm not saying those things don't matter, but they have little to do with making a working country. All of our mainstream news is now owned by a very few companies, 10x fewer companies than 50 years ago. The same companies that own the government representation own the news and choose what stories are pushed. They push the issues they don't really care much about, and ignore or quietly spin the ones that truly do benefit them.

If we can take back the government and make it represent the citizens I'm confident we can fix the other problems. I don't really care if we use conservative or liberal ideas for the solutions or combinations of both, if we have a government that is really working for the people we can solve them.

We have problems that must be addressed soon, and it has to be based on what works for the citizens of this country. Income inequality can't increase unrestrained forever or you get revolt which wrecks everything. Markets collapse if the general population has no money to spend. Our rigged government has been part of the problem, but outsourcing, automation, AI, robotics, cloud computing, and other technological advances have been extremely disruptive and that is going to accelerate. We are likely going to be facing a situation soon where massive numbers of workers simple aren't needed, wages not just depressed but gone. Imagine half of all workers not being needed, that type of situation. That will need to addressed, and it will need to be a solution that works for the general population. Otherwise we become a third world country with mass slums, etc. Maybe we end up there anyway, but I'd like to think we could come up with better. I think we will with honest representation. (for more on this read Rise of the Robots by Martin Ford, the half I've read so far has been very good).

The amount we spend on healthcare has to be solved. We can't spend 50% more for same or worse results and stay competitive. And it will only get worse if we don't fix it. Hospitals all over are buying up practices as fast as possible to create local monopolies to control and further increase fees. It will only stop if we make it stop. We have to regulate hospital and drug costs/fees or we will have a smaller and smaller percentage of the population that can afford them. That's bad for the general population AND the hospitals and health care workers. Yes, capping fees at 1.5x what Medicare pays (or something) would limit hospital profits and be disruptive, but far less disruptive than gradually pricing out most of the costumers.

I guess I'll be done for now. If anyone read this far, thanks.

Both parties have made it crystal clear this election cycle they will do everything possible to keep the money game going. I don't know if they can be changed from withen anymore. It might be time for an anticorruption Peoples Party whose only party positions is on government/campaign reform. All other issues would be personal belief/position of the candidate. We would decide who we liked best in the primary process, and they could vote on those issues based on those stated positions. We could have conservative and liberal People Party representatives, as long as they all work towards killing lobbying and outside influence. (workable? Or dumb idea?)

Damn it micro, now my fingers hurt

Lacky,

Massive spelling errors aside, I totally agree. It seems like there's a massive amount of attention given to social issues, which of course are important, but Billionaires and Multinational Corporations couldn't give a crap whether abortion is legal or not, so it's awesome for them if neither party would dare interfere with the things they care about and everyone fights about abortion or whatever. Abortion is the perfect example because it divides the country virtually in half and many people on either side will, "I know my party is totally corrupt, but we can't lose choice" or "we must protect life."

And as far as science fiction about robots replacing people, it's basically already happening. Forgetting robots specifically, productivity has been rising steadily and for the last 30 years wealth in the middle class and below has been static. It's not like we are living in slums in general, but the fruits of increased productivity can't 100% go to a tiny slice of the people. Like you said, it will lead to instability. It's not good for the rich people.

Citizens United must be overturned or a constitutional amendment. People shouldn't be passed back and forth between government and Goldman Sachs. Billionaires and their donations and think tanks like the Koch Bros and on the other side, I'm really beginning to think The Clinton Foundation, although it does good work, is a conduit for power as well.

And again, more tin-foil-hatness, but the trade deals imo are global transfers of sovereignty to international organizations and laws. Just the way something like the TPP was handled is amazing. 5500 pages, access to legislators seriously limited, top secret, 85% written by lobbyists, sets up courts run by industry that have jurisdiction over nations. (and although Bernie and Trump are talking about it's effect on the American middle class, it mostly ****s the developing world)

Maybe crazy, but democracy is really quite diminished lately. And the media? In the democracy demonstrations going on right now in Washington DC, they had 400 arrests one day. That's the record for arrests at any demonstration ever at Capital Hill. It doesn't feel like it's being covered all that much.

I think everyone knows all of this and people have tried to make it a big enough issue, but it's finally getting there. McCain was big on it, until he caved, Obama toyed with the idea of Public Finance, but caved, neither Bernie nor Trump are going to make it to POTUS, but I really don't think this is just going to go away because Clinton happens to win this election.

I don't know if you've seen this, but Obama has said that he's not sure that he can say that big money hasn't affected him. It's probably obvious that big money affects anyone who takes it, but he's even saying it about himself.

I will have more respect for Obama if after he leaves office he starts talking about all the things he wanted to do but couldn't because of all the special interest groups and pandering for money. He probably won't, but he has nothing to lose at that point, and a former president laying it all out in the open sure would help. Most likely he'll just go make his million dollar speeches and get rich like they all do though.

Rise of the Robots is nonfiction, written by a software startup guy, laying out the possible and already seen effects of automation, AI, etc, very well researched, anotated, etc.

Yeah, the trade deal is 100% for corperations by corperations. When congress isn't allowed to read the drafts but corperations are...what else is there to say?