I instamuck this given the stack sizes....

longy - u sure about that. icm disciple should fold qq as well and only call with AA and KK

btw - i agree a raise of 2-3bbs is prob best

Have you read Kill Everyone? It has charts which explain this kind of thing in great detail. I don't have the book in front of me, so I can't look it up, but I'd say with an M of 6.6, this is a push. If you run into AQ or AK+, bad luck. If you raise small and get reraised by pocket 9's, you will make a terrible fold.

"longy - u sure about that. icm disciple should fold qq as well and only call with AA and KK"

lol?

Folding >> Shoving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything Else

I spaz-shove as much as anyone, but shoving here in a $16, especially one described as "slightly loose" is a definite leak. You need a significant minimum edge to make a push here and you don't have it. Your edge as a good player increases exponentionally as the blinds go up from here...don't give that up to flip coins with a 0.01% edge at 100/200.

I'd rather open shove from the button with ATC than shove here UTG given the stack sizes (mainly the BBs)

I fold here also from UTG, you be suprised what people call with. You say they are slighly loose. So I would expect most PP's to call and probably down to A/9

lol how is this 3 pages. this would be a terrible shove.

This is an easy fold. The ranges some of the posters have put everyone on are waaaaaayyyy to tight for the 16's. Loosen up the ranges in the SngWiz and it is clearly a fold.

whatever this may or may not be it certainly isnt a clear fold!

fold with no antes, and wait 5 seconds before folding with antes as its alot closer.
0% @ everone on 9% and i think some will call lighter so fold.

lol you ten page noob. this is the 21st century menggg