What is an achievable winrate in $7/$15 hyper SNG 6max (_not_ spins) after these rake increases.....

I have pulled data from sharkscope but I always wonder how exactly accurate it is compared to actual money cashed out.....

so it sounds like $.30-$.50 (cents per game) is the approx average of all winrate's 20K+ sample size.... for $15's

We all know stars has been raping us on rake increases and im curious how the winrate's have changed with these changes...

I have a part-time good paying job and a family as well.... however my wife is very supportive if I can consistently make additional income, as additional income is needed but it will never be my primary income.

So my math is as follows:

60 minutes an hour / 6 minutes (approx average time of a single game) =
10 sessions an hour. (6 tables at a time per session)

so 10 sessions (an hour) X 6 tables (a session) X $.33 (cents a game)

= $19.80 an hour

is my math totally off on this one or is this a proven approx winrate for these games in today's world....

I dont trust sitngoplanet's numbers because i think all those articles are old when winrate's were higher then today, but $19 seems really high too me even today.

(I forgot to change my sharkscope filter, these .33 are in CAD not USD. Also I tried my best to pick the right section of forums, but im sure a mod will move it, if im in the wrong section)

You should start playing them and other games and see which you have the highest hourly edge in, instead of waiting for everybody else's average. If you have the knack for Nash Equilibrium and maximally exploitative strategies with hyper turbo 6-max SNGs, then you can be one of the few that can beat the high rake.

When I made my first deposit on partypoker, I was pleasantly shocked that I had a high ROI with certain games so I kept grinding those ones but I knew that the my online win rates would eventually go down. I later tried live tournaments and was again surprised by my ROI so I played every one of the juiciest tournaments in certain casinos.

Speaking of game selection , I choose HT's because my lifestyle doesn't support anything else..... of course MTT's are more fun but 8-14 hours a day for my lifestyle on the highest forum of variance of poker would never ever work for me, at this time in my life anyways.

Obviously edges/ROI in HT's are the least amount in poker (besides 50/50 aka double-or-nothing) But its the only thing that suits my buszy lifestyle of a working family man. Of course with the proper amount of volume that edge adds up to just as much profit as other forms of poker with a bigger edge and much smaller amounts of volume because each table takes longer to complete.

I just hope someone posts that is a current $7/$15 HT 6max grinder and can verify my winrate is in the right ballpark atleast and the accuracy of sharkscope data usually its pretty good.

6 tables is 30-35 games per hour, thats why your figures are way off.

Ya 6 tabling is 30 games per hour. I know this straight away because I used to 6 table these.

I hate to be a negative nancy, but your not going to be able to show up to 15s and crush straight away. There are some good players in these games and the rake is brutal.

Sharkscope is showing you the Best 10 regs in these games. Tonnes of players before them tried to break in and failed.

With a lot of work in ICMIZER you could probably achieve a 4% ROI. But, you would need to do a lot of work off the tables.

From your thread and the questions you are asking your obviously not a very experienced player in these games.

If you had a 2% ROI you'd be considered very good at this format starting out with little experience.

Seems like a pretty common human pitfall - to look at the best players and assume that'll be our winrate if we played that game - and base all of our calculations from that.
Its actually insane when you look at it, yet I don't mind admitting that as a newer player I was guilty of a similar thought process.
It's like the ego creates a reality "blind spot"

well you guys are assuming Im referring to the leaderboards on sharkscope, I am not..... I am taking the average from my own autosngcoloring formatting these are not the top tier regs winrates.

you guys also judged me that I am a new player and I wont have as much success, infact I have been playing for 6 years taking the game seriously.

Although originally from the softer site party poker,

I am a long-term winner in $7 6max 36man sunday milly sattys, as well as 3x-turbo sats aka Splash nowadays, also a long term winner in satellites on party poker and blinked a few MTT scores on that site as well.

the $7s hyper 6max and HU seem really soft for my ability in those games, the $15s I have not taken a stab at yet.

Thanks for the replies though, Ill continue my search for the least variance highest ROIs out there without spending 8-12 hours a day on games.

Don't get defensive.

The advice offered here was in good faith, and by players with VASTLY more experience of this particular format than you. You asked questions, we answered.

Nobody said you were bad at poker, merely that as you have no expeience of this format, that even as a very good poker player, you won't turn up and crush a format you've never played before, aren't an ICM specialist in and aren't familiar with the culture/population habits of the game.
If you think some part of that is errant, then I assure you the mistake would lay with you.

Guys, he binked a few MTT scores. He's ready.

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if you mean that he can lose the winnings of the mtt in hypers before he becomes a net loser, then yeah.