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10-19-2014 , 10:34 AM
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Hi,

Not sure if I should fold on the river here.





    Poker Stars, $1.29 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31851891

    CO: 2,160 (72 bb)
    BTN: 1,520 (50.7 bb)
    SB: 1,090 (36.3 bb)
    BB: 1,150 (38.3 bb)
    UTG+1: 1,830 (61 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,560 (52 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 1,570 (52.3 bb)
    MP2: 1,470 (49 bb)
    MP3: 1,150 (38.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 90, 4 folds, SB calls 75, BB folds

    Flop: (210) 7 J K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 120, SB calls 120

    Turn: (450) 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: (450) Q (2 players)
    SB bets 880 and is all-in, Hero calls 880

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,210 pot
    Final Board: 7 J K 7 Q
    SB showed A T and won 1,105 (15 net)
    Hero showed T A and won 1,105 (15 net)



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    Villain is 25/14 after 45 hands.

    I'm opening pre and c-betting after he checks the flop to represent a K. After his call I'm suspicious to KJ or any Kx he might "trap" with, but he checks a blank on turn, so I check. Q on the river completes my straight draw, but completes his probable flush draw. He donk-shoves which is quite poor in my opinion since it's 2x pot and I take it rather as a bluff so I check.

    Now I think I should b/f the turn after his check. If he would have a flush draw, he should bet to protect his hand. I he c/r my bet on the turn he has a Kx and I give up hand.
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    10-19-2014 , 12:38 PM
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    That's not a fantastic turn card for you, as it makes him less likely to fold Jx and unless we have some solid read, he's never folding Kx (and obviously not 7x). Not sure why you think it's probably he has a flush draw. It's a very small % of his range. Even so, it's unlikely he'd donk a flush draw on the turn to "protect" his hand.
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    10-19-2014 , 03:30 PM
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    All street's look fine to me, if he caught the flush or has a boat, then oh well!
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    10-19-2014 , 09:03 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by acbarone
    That's not a fantastic turn card for you, as it makes him less likely to fold Jx and unless we have some solid read, he's never folding Kx (and obviously not 7x). Not sure why you think it's probably he has a flush draw. It's a very small % of his range. Even so, it's unlikely he'd donk a flush draw on the turn to "protect" his hand.
    Do you mean it's likely he would?

    I think OP's play was fine, obv. Villain can have all sorts of two pairs that he thinks are best there and he can't have that many flush draws anyway (most he can have probably bet the flop and I think bet the turn often too).
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    10-20-2014 , 03:38 AM
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    Why do we think he's just donking flush draws?
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    10-20-2014 , 04:18 AM
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    They're largely twoway draws that fish love to donk?
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    10-20-2014 , 10:17 AM
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    U dont have to play your hand as agressively as u imagined it. Like, bet flop and bet/fold turn.
    Beting flop is fine, but with that turn card i think we are not geting him of any hand that called the flop. Just check the turn, cause we have equity in the hand with our gutshot and also sdv with AThigh vs some of his draws like QT Q9 T9 that his c/calling the flop with.

    On A river, we can call a bet or bet if checked to us, and im not folding on this villains play otr when Q hit.
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    10-20-2014 , 06:40 PM
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    He did check the turn.
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    10-20-2014 , 06:45 PM
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    In his last sentence, he wrote "Now I think I should b/f the turn after his check" thats what i was reffering to.
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    10-20-2014 , 08:28 PM
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    Quote:
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    They're largely twoway draws that fish love to donk?
    We're saying he flats flop with some BD flush draw and then donks turn with it? Based on...some fish like to do it? Ugh.
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    10-21-2014 , 01:18 AM
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    No, I'm saying that he can have hands that had a draw on the flop and became twoways on the turn.
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