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12-24-2012 , 05:48 PM
Min-raise and overcalls (plus sooooted) makes this a pretty easy flat pre IMO. Flop I check here maybe 80% of the time. Turn i can see an argument for either c/c or leading but almost never raising here.

I am pretty convinced UTG+2 never has a flush here due to his bet sizing and BTN never has a boat. I think BTN shows up here with QJ,QT,Q9 (even A9o) and random suited flushes (67, 78, etc) more so than AQ and Axs. Pretty bad fold looking back but just curious what you guys think.

    Full Tilt, 30/60 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15128451

    Hero (SB): 1,375 (22.9 bb)
    BB: 2,345 (39.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 2,015 (33.6 bb)
    MP1: 1,515 (25.3 bb)
    MP2: 1,400 (23.3 bb)
    MP3: 1,360 (22.7 bb)
    CO: 1,720 (28.7 bb)
    BTN: 1,770 (29.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K
    UTG+2 raises to 120, 3 folds, CO calls 120, BTN calls 120, Hero calls 90, BB calls 60

    Flop: (600) Q Q 9 (5 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, BTN checks

    Turn: (600) 2 (5 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets 120, CO folds, BTN raises to 1,650 and is all-in




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    Last edited by GMINTZ; 12-24-2012 at 05:51 PM. Reason: Reads: Both randoms, 15/12 and 11/0 over less than 20 hands
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    12-24-2012 , 05:54 PM
    Looks like an easy fold tbh. KcQs would be closer.
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    12-24-2012 , 10:06 PM
    Fold pre. As played, fold turn.
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    12-25-2012 , 10:58 AM
    Hm..pre call is maybe not a big mistake IMO.
    But with so many players on the flush draw flop I would just bet about the pot ?! Or is this too naiv?
    As played turn is maybe a crying fold..IMO

    EDIT: not pot-sized but shove

    Last edited by Ivan2007; 12-25-2012 at 11:08 AM.
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    12-25-2012 , 12:02 PM
    UTG2s bet is super weak and like no randoms are just shoving boats here and very few doing it with nut flush (or any flush). He can def be just lolspaz protecting his hand

    I call. Preflop depends on stuff
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    12-25-2012 , 01:50 PM
    Oh and pleaseeeee lead that flop. The board is draw heavy and you will get called a lot by worse hands there, no reason to try a check raise (just lol if you were considering check/calling this).
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    12-25-2012 , 03:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GMINTZ
    I am pretty convinced UTG+2 never has a flush here due to his bet sizing and BTN never has a boat. I think BTN shows up here with QJ,QT,Q9 (even A9o) and random suited flushes (67, 78, etc) more so than AQ and Axs.
    Solid deduction IMO, I like a call.
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    12-25-2012 , 11:46 PM
    Except that UTG+2 can easily have 99 and if you think BTN shows up with Q9 there, you are losing the hand.
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