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$4.40 8-Max late stage KQ facing short stack shove

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12-23-2012 , 08:53 PM

Brownerrr

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Final two tables of the tourney with 13 players remaining. Pretty certain I was sitting in 10/11th at the time of this hand.

otb with KQo (18bb) and the short stack of the table/tourney open shoves from the co for his 10bb. Only played 9 hands with this short stack and he hasn't played any of them yet so no tells/stats on him. Re-shove into the blinds to iso? or fold? At the time I thought about it too long I think, which definitely altered my decision, as looking back i'm pretty certain I would have changed my selection.

What ranges are we iso'ing with here into a 50ish and a 20ish bb stack at this stage of the tourney?

Cheers!

Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 625 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15125851

CO: 52,774 (10.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 92,571 (18.5 bb)
SB: 245,175 (49 bb)
BB: 124,316 (24.9 bb)
UTG: 158,821 (31.8 bb)
MP: 448,611 (89.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

2 folds, CO raises to 52,149 and is all-in, 3 folds

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12-23-2012 , 10:11 PM

ArGee

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How many places paid?

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12-23-2012 , 10:17 PM

Brownerrr

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over 100. currently at the final two tables. $700 for 1st approx.

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12-23-2012 , 10:27 PM

ArGee

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Pretty standard iso shove then. You aren't going to win without getting more chips. I wouldn't worry too much about SB and BB, they're not calling you without pretty darn strong hands.

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12-24-2012 , 01:33 AM

roNAA

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I would only call in this spot If thought I was ahead of shorties range here for over half our stack, It is a very tough spot because we can be ahead of this sometimes, he proly has some soooted connectors and j9,j8,q9,k8 type hands in his range here as well as better broadways and flips. It really sucks coz we dont have a read, if we knew he was loose we can call, and if hes tight can fold.

But because we are readless and I like the lower variance route i would fold, but I defntly dont think iso is a mistake here.

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12-24-2012 , 01:41 AM

Dragons_Egg

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Kinda depends on how you think your chances are at this table. If there's a lot of weak passive play and/or the big stacks aren't pounding away then you can probably toss it and look for other spots to build. But if it looks like there aren't going to be too many spots for you to steal the blinds or make 3-bet shoves then you might be best taking this spot.

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12-25-2012 , 01:03 PM

FaraChef

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Marginal iso reshove mostly because unknown players shove so tight this late.Could go either way.

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12-25-2012 , 05:33 PM

Brownerrr

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On reflection I'd have been happier shoving (I folded). He was the shortest stack, so purely based on that, i'd say KQ will quite often play quite well against his range. Would it be fair enough to suggest that?

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12-25-2012 , 06:55 PM

mellowm1nd

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Originally Posted by Brownerrr

I'd say even readless i iso jam this..

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12-26-2012 , 01:11 AM

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FaraChef

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In a vacuum this is a reshove all day long.My only argument for saying it's marginal is that i see plenty of nits this late at this stakes who let themselves blind down not playing a single hand several orbits.We also have two players behind wich matters a little.
But given we are readless,i agree that shoving is probably better we need 45% to call(not counting the implications of players overcalling behind too lazy to do that) and obviously should have that against any reasonable shoving range.

Last edited by FaraChef; 12-26-2012 at 01:19 AM.

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