Is there any tracking of overall usage of 2+2? The majority of the forums I tend to visit seem to have dropped off in the last year or so.

There is, but it is internal only

TylerCracker is inbound. Anyone have his cell? Is it the same as a few years ago?

You guys doing something in Boulder? Loop me in if possible please.

You scare children. He's around, and he will be for a while.

Well, we did this, sorta. We didn't make it downtown, and we didn't really feel like paying $10 or $25 minimum on the strip, so I didn't think any crops was going to go down. But then, we found ourselves with about an hour to kill this morning before meeting Dominic for lunch and then leaving town. Without anywhere in particular to go, and not really having time to go anywhere in particular before needing to head to lunch, we sat down at this CRAPS MACHINE. I was a little skeptical, like it might have fishy odds or something. It seemed to have the right odds on at least the pass and odds bets, and that was all that mattered to me, so game on. You just pushed a button to toss these giant dice in this central clear cylinder. Suboptimal, but we're killing some time here, and a $3 minimum is nice.

We put $20 in, and the guy to our left goes on an immediate heater, nailing at least 5 or 6 points before sevening out. We were trying to get him to skip his tee time to keep his luck going, but he bolted when out. His luck stayed behind, however. I think everyone at the machine with us got at least one win on their turn before going out. The most epic run was me setting and hitting three points in the span of 7 total rolls of the dice.

We finished up over $200 between the two of us. It could have been much more if MrsWookie actually played her odds bets and placed more on them rather than donking around on the other bets on the board, I think mostly just to troll me. I do not think I will live down when she binked a 15:1 bet on a 3 to be the next roll, however.

Also, I have an actual hand of poker.

Bellagio 4/8 game. I have a pretty good seat. Two rocky old regs to my left, and the rest of the table is pretty loose and passive. MP player is an ATM running well. He plays a lot of hands, but he does know how to bet a pair when it is probably the best hand. I have seen him check behind a weak two pair on a not terribly threatening board on the river before, though.

MP limps, bad LP player limps, folded to me in the BB with AsKs. I raise, all call.

Flop: T43r. I bet out (? Not a bad chance I am currently best). MP calls, and I don't remember if LP folded either the flop or turn, she doesn't matter.

Turn: K, I believe completing the rainbow. Good news. I bet and am called.

River: Ad. I bet and am raised. Raise or call?

Raise. His most likely hand is a worse Aces Up.

Followed by lolslowplayed sets.

What about QJ or 52s?

Hmmm, I'm wondering if I am misremembering the hand then. I don't remember thinking a broadway straight was possible, so that T might have actually been a 9 or an 8.

In that case easy 3bet

I 3 bet and crying call 4 fwiw

So how much did you lose?

You are too sharp for my posting. I posted this hand mostly because I wanted to post a hand, any hand, from my session because when the hell else am I going to have a genuine opportunity to post a hand of poker amirite? This was by far the most interesting one. Most were super standard. But I had hoped to color it that people who were suspicious of my reasons for posting it were unsure whether I was regretting my cowardice or regretting my loss. I did raise, he made it 4, and you were correct that he had 52s.

I suppose if that was my beat, I can round out my TR with a brag and some variance.

Brag:

I raise jacks from MP. LP takes two to the face, and the BB calls.

Flop: QJXr. BB bets out, I raise, LP takes two more to the face, BB calls.

Turn: A of something. BB donks again. LP takes two big ones to the face, BB calls again.

River: brick. BB checks to me. I bet and get two calls. Set of jacks is good, BB shows a very unlucky but poorly played AQo, and LP mucks a hand to which I cannot assign a decent range. Maybe another AQ? AJ or Ax?

Variance:

I get KsQs in MP and announce "raise." Except my raise is not a raise, it's a 3bet because the bad LP player from hand 1 who's in EP for this hand had made the first raise that I hadn't noticed. Oops. Always good going into a hand for 3 bets while likely dominated. Doesn't matter. Turned flush.

wow, you nerds are all still here.

i have determined that internet forums are not good for my mental health so i won't be sticking around, but i wanted to pop in and say hi and remind you that if you have a chance to hang out with dougl or kerowo and don't take it, you are doin it rong. to break the ice, you can ask doug about Pantsgate or kero about parking an urban assault vehicle in downtown denver.

doug claims that his daughter must remember me since she wasn't super shy around me. she is a budding naturalist, so i guess my story about watching an osprey pluck fish out of kolob reservoir helped.

unrelated psa: the orleans (one of the last bastions of limit and non-holdem poker in vegas) has weekly HORSE and OE tournaments. you, like me, might think you're a bad stud/8 player, but it turns out that if you understand board lock you are actually an xprt.

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tyler

oh and while i'm here, this is a hand that's been bugging me.

live 4/8, harvey's south lake tahoe (where it all began for hero, >10 years ago).

two lp limpers and hero RAISES KJ from the hj. bad button and blinds call.

(bad button plays basically every hand, has taken the standard fish call flop/raise turn line with flopped trips.)


FLOP (10 sb, 5 players)
Q J 3

checks to hero who BETS, bad button RAISES, one call, hero calls.

TURN (8 bb, 3 players)
Q

check, hero checks, bad button BETS, fold, hero calls.

RIVER (10 bb, 2 players)
J

hero...?

Can he read the board? Then you can play it like its 2008 and b/f, right?

I C/C because I think he's more likely to misread his hand strength on the turn (with a bare queen) than he is on the river (calling with a flush).

I played some live nl last night. I think I know my mistake, but will get some thoughts.

1/2 nl, I've got about $400 in front of me.

Average guy in ep raises to 7. 4 callers and I have T T in Cutoff. I see an argument for 3-betting but I'd have to raise significantly to knock the callers out and it's going to be tricky to play postflop so I opt for lower variance and call.

Flop is 955. Checks to guy on my right (about $350 in front) who bets $11. I raise to $25. Folds to guy on my right who calls.

Turn is 2. Villain checks. I check behind. River is a blank and he bets out $55. Hero?

He can have a 9 but I really should have bet the turn in hindsight. Then I could have checked behind river or folded to a raise. Thoughts?

Isn't most of his range a counterfeited nut-low when he bets ut now?

This is nlhe. Not plo8.

aaron,

sorry i didn't hook up with you while i was in town.


xylocain's gimmick account,

b/f seems right, but man do i hate folding getting 13:1 against a guy who might not be able to tie his shoes. obviously i hate calling a river raise even more. this game is very 2008-esque, tho, so i think b/f might have been the right choice.


leroy,

that's a good thought process -- your recent live play has obviously improved your hand reading against mongoloids. i do think two s are calling ~always when i bet but betting ~never if i check.


anyway since this is the nc thread and i no longer strive to set an example by not posting results, here are the results:

I'm just glad I had a chance to get some Poutine with Tyler.