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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
well ty doug, but what about the river here ?
this is where my problem is for bet thin value or c/c
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The villain never has a 9, so that's a blank. I doubt he has backdoor

. So, if you were good before, you're good now. I think he'd be willing to put you on a combo draw often enough to call with an A, so you can consider value betting. Your hand is unreadable to most good players, so the range he puts you on won't even include your hand. We'd need a read as to how likely he is to call three streets with A high (or even K high), You don't beat a pair, so it is just a question of do you get calls from hands you beat often enough to bet for value.
Honestly, you can wonder how easy this guy is to induce and how thin he value bets. Would he bet 44 here to a check? AK? Against a low WTSD player who doesn't bluff, c/f could be right.
one other thing
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we lead again because lot of draws are present and BU might still put us only on a draw .
we open ourself tho to get raise for freee SD ,etc
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Free SD raises are a sickness that a few people have. I wouldn't define my strategy around him doing it, because so few people FSDR. Oddly, your exact hand is likely to be worse than most hands a villain would FDSR unless he does it with AK. If you really thought he was FSDR-ing you, you should think about making a rebluff and win the pot. If you have enough fancy play to try this, you have big leaks and should really examine your own game.
Many (most) villains with a monster would wait for the turn, so flop call, turn raise is often just crushing you. Mix in the fact that many FSDR hands beat you, and b/f the turn seems safe without a read to the contrary.