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Old 02-01-2013, 09:55 AM   #1
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"The Digest" February 2013



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by...Mikes007


The Value of Holding Blockers in NL Hold'em


There are often times in NL hold'em where we are holding blockers to the top of our opponent's range. In these cases, we must realize that the importance of blockers is important, and may cause us to play differently than if we didn't hold any blockers.

In this article, I will look at a couple of common situations in which the blockers we hold make a big difference to our optimal line. We will go through some numbers to see roughly what kind of benefit we gain from these blockers.

Let's consider a situation where an opponent opens for 2.5bb on the button and you're in the small blind. He's opening from the BTN about 50%, and his fold to resteal% is 65%. When he doesn't fold, he 4-bets about half the time, and he folds the rest of the time. You are considering what hands are best for restealing to 9bb as a bluff. If he 4bets, then you will fold.

Well, if he's opening 50% and continuing 35% of the time that you 3-bet, then his range for continuing is 17.5%. Let's make a reasonable 50% opening range, and 8.75% ranges for him to call and to 4bet:

Open range: 22-AA, AKo-A2o, KQo-K7o, QJo-Q8o, JTo-J8o, T9o-T8o, 97o+, 87o, 76o, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-Q5s, JTs-J7s, T9s-T7s, 95s+, 87s-84s, 76s-74s, 65s-64s, 54s, 43s, 32s

Call range: 33-99, AJo, KQo, AJs-ATs, KQs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs-J9s, T9s-T8s, 98s

4-bet range: TT-AA, AKo-AQo, ATo, A4o, A2o, AKs-AQs, A9s-A6s

Now, let's see how the presence or absence of blockers in our hand affects how often he will in reality be able to continue to our 3-bet. Suppose we have 96s and 3-bet it. By using combo-counting software, we can see that our opponent will be opening with 613 combos, 4-betting with 112 combos, calling with 109 combos, and folding 392 combos. He is folding 63.9% of the time. He's 4betting 18.3%, and calling our 3bet 17.8%. Let's look at the EV of our 3-bet, assuming we win our equity share of the pot (37% against his calling range) when we get called.

EV = EV(folds) * P(folds) + EV(4bets) * P(4bets) + EV(calls) * P(calls)
EV = 4 bb*0.639 Ė 8.5bb*.183 + (-8.5bb + 19bb*.37)*.178
EV = 2.56bb Ė 1.56bb - .262bb
EV = .738bb

We have a positive EV from making this 3bet of .738bb, if we are able to realize our whole equity share of the pot whenever we are called.

What if we have a hand with blockers instead? Something like A7o. Well, now the fact that we block big parts of his range changes the numbers. When we hold A7o, he is opening with only 584 combos. But more importantly, he's 4-betting only 89 combos, calling with 106 combos, and folding 389 combos. He's folding 66.7% of the time, 4-betting 15.2%, and calling 18.2%. Our equity when called is 46%. Let's look at the EV calculations for this case:

EV = EV(folds) * P(folds) + EV(4bets) * P(4bets) + EV(calls) * P(calls)
EV = 4bb*.667 Ė 8.5bb*.152 + (-8.5bb + 19bb*.46)*.182
EV = 2.67bb Ė 1.29bb + .04bb
EV = 1.42bb

Our EV has almost doubled by using a hand with a blocker to the top of his range. Now, some of this increased EV comes from A7 having more equity against his range than 96s does, but most of our increased EV comes from the fact that he is folding more and 4-betting less often when we block the part of his range which contains aces.

While both hands are +EV against this particular opponent, unless he is so clueless that you can 3-bet almost anything without his adjusting to your play, you are better off picking hands with blockers to 3-bet as a bluff against him. Against other opponents, who do not fold to a 3bet quite as often, this difference in EV can easily make the hand without a blocker a -EV 3-bet.

Now let's look at a postflop example. Suppose you open with 98s, and the bb calls you. You are 100bb deep with him. He is a pretty passive player, but he is only slightly loose preflop. He will 3bet preflop only and always with JJ+. Postflop, he doesn't like to bluff, but he thinks any overpair or better is the nuts. He doesn't realize the value of big combo-draws and he plays them passively. This player likes to donk bet with a wide range of hands, but he will fold most of the time that his donk bet gets raised.

The flop comes:

8 9 2

You have top two pair. Villain donk bets, you raise, and he shoves over the top. You think that his range is this: TT-88,22,98s. So you are losing to 3 hands, beating 1 hand, and tying 1 hand. And you are way further behind the hands that beat you than you are ahead of the hand that you beat. It may seem at first glance that you are in poor shape indeed and should probably fold.

But if you take a look at the fact that you block his combos of 99, 88, and 98s, the situation is very different. He will have 6 combos of TT, which you are ahead of. He will have 3 combos of 22, and one combo each of 99 and 88. There are 2 other combos of 98s, with which you are tied. So you are actually ahead or tied with most of his range here. The actual numbers are 56.5% equity for him, and 43.5% for you. Given the starting stack size, you almost certainly are getting the odds to call his all-in on the flop with a bit worse than a coinflip.

As you can see, the presence of blockers in our hand can change our equity significantly. While these blockers may only block a few combos in our opponent's range, they may be the most valuable combos in his range. Considering the effects of blockers can contribute to your bottom line, especially if you use good hand-reading to reduce the number of possible combos in your opponent's range.


LINKS

We have consistently asked our readers to post more strat threads that generate good discussion and some have responded. This month the pickings were slim though, and we have very few to look at. We hope regs and experienced players will post some interesting hands in February and "prime the pump" so to speak. Please post your strat hands according to posting guidelines, especially leaving out results but including reads and available stats for villains.

QQ from UTG
Set over set


Good discussion on the turn, that then turns into a good discussion about how to play preflop.
How to play against passive players
Looks for for a ride on the river
Older discussion about dry flops, but a very good one.
This discussion goes in a lot of interesting directions.
Common spot, but interesting.
A range question

A very good thread idea from "Auntie" WDWF
BQ forum regs having secret santa fun for the season wp guys!
This series (links to all parts of it are in the post) contains enough information for most beginners to become winning players. Thanks to DiamondDog for writing these and posting them
December 2012 issue of "The Digest"
updated view of Freteloo's autologous starting hand range progress
Discussion of drawing odds and pot odds in BQ
This is what BQ is for

"The Digest" January 2013
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by...A_Schupick


Last month I looked at what you need to do in order to really be a successful player, but one thing I didnít really touch on was what tools I use, and what a broken hand should look like. This month though, I will give you the tools to make those strides, and hopefully, this will allow you to bring your game to a completely new level.

Training Sites and Coaching: I personally think the two best sites out there right now are Deuces Cracked and Drag the Bar. Both have very good trainers and very good series for lower stakes players, which I mostly what this is targeted at. When you decide to watch a video though, you need to really do it in an intelligent way. Just going about it haphazardly isnít going to get you the most out of it, not by a long shot. I would start by picking a series and committing to it, even if itís less than spectacular you can gain something from it for sure. Realize you are going to only watch 15-20 minutes of it in one sitting. Any more or less isn't using your time wisely. As each decision is going to happen get ready to pause it and write down what you think will be the answer and see how close you are. Do this through the entire series, and you should have a series done in around 3 weeksí time.

Something I have recently started doing is then watching the series again, without pausing it and just following along in my notes to make sure I got everything that is important, or to see if something might have changed.

Coaching is much different, but I think can be exceptionally useful depending on how you learn best. Coaches provide a structured way to learn something, and to help you individually. They can cater what they talk about to your specific questions, and can work with you on something if you are having more problems with it, while not worrying about other parts that donít concern you. There are coaches that charge far less than $50 an hour, which is what a lot of people think is the lowest rate. Sometimes it takes talking to well-respected members of the community to learn who coaches, but there are a lot of cheaper coaches out there and others who would be willing to coach if you offered them something. Donít spam people, obviously, but sending a PM or two to ask a few questions never hurt anyone.

Asking yourself how you learn best is the most important question. Then asking yourself what kind of money you have should be considered. Remember, if you make the right choice for what you can get the most out of, then you will make back the money fairly easily. You have to know yourself though, and know what will and what wonít work for you.

Tracking Programs: This is pretty simple, but a surprisingly high number of players still do not have a tracking program, and this is just a huge mistake. Now that most of them offer micro-stakes versions of the software, and with alternatives to just PT4 and HEM, itís really a no-brainer that you need one and not getting one is just throwing away money. Looking at your stats, other peopleís stats, hands you played, and other important factors are just necessary in todayís game. Find a tracking program now if you havenít, and get going!

Equity Calculators and similar tools: There are a few good programs out there, but my two favorite right now are Combonator and Equilab. These are exceptionally useful tools, because they allow you too easily (to a point) become more familiar with equities, ranges, combos, and many other very important facets of the game. I like using both in concert with one another to get as much as I can from reviewing my play. I think only using one of these programs will be fine, but I think you miss out on some really nice tools that each can offer, and I think using both once you get to $1/$2 is going to be a must if you truly want to dominate the games. I wonít say you canít beat them before that level, but your winrate will only increase if you use these.

How to Break Down a Hand: I will leave you with a broken down hand that I did, and while it is not perfect, I think itís a good starting spot for those who really want to get into taking your game to the next level. For this, I sued all the tools I outlined here, so if you have questions, just ask, and I will gladly explain things in further detail.

BTN 48/3 13/27/43 over 129 hands.
SB 73/15 27/31/26 over 124 hands.
Merge - $0.05/$0.10 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $1.51
Hero (BB): $6.47
UTG: $3.16
MP: $2.28
CO: $0.97
BTN: $1.80

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Jd9d


fold, MP calls $0.05, fold, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

I could raise here, but with it being four ways I donít really want to polarize my range too much here with a really skeptical drawing hands. While I like this hand in tighter games, with SB being so wide, I am going to be in a lot of really awkward spots post, plus, there are chances more people could be calling, and I donít want ot be in a bloated pot 4-ways when I flop a medium draw or middle pair.

Flop: ($0.20, 4 players) Kd9s4s

SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05

I think the raise is pretty standard, because I need to thin the field some, but also getting people to call with weak draws, especially flush draws can be really valuable. Also, with their PF ranges being so wide I donít think I am bad here a ton of the time, but I think that it would happen sometimes. I think that I might still get open call, but I take control of the hand, and I donít think MP will 3! Unless I am way behind, at which point I can just call and then fold when I miss the turn. I think it forces them to reveal their range a lot more than they may want to.

Turn: ($0.50, 3 players) Kd9s4sTc

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

I hate this card; I hate this card a lot. I think betting here is just going to be putting myself in a bad spot, plus I think that BTN is going to check a lot of the time, except for when he is really far ahead, or has some nutty draw. Here is the thing; I have to call, because I can with a Q, and possibly a J or 9.

River: ($0.80, 3 players) Kd9s4sTc9h

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.10

That is one of the outs that I can really win with. I plan to c/r BTN, because I think his river bet means that he is far ahead, or has a really good hand on the turn, so he will bet river. When SB calls, I think raising is best, because SB is basically dead against my range, and BTN has hands that beat me, but has ones that donít as well, such as 89/79/K4/KT/ and possibly AK, along also with a few missed FD. With the dead money from SB, I think it becomes a raise and call of 3!.

Preflop:
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Equity Win Tie
CO 25.59% 23.95% 1.63% { 77-44, A9s-A2s, K9s-K2s, Q9s-Q4s, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, ATo-A2o, KJo-K6o, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }
BU 25.43% 23.93% 1.50% { 88-33, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T4s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A2o+, K3o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }
SB 20.81% 19.55% 1.26% { 66-22, A8s-A2s, K9s-K2s, Q9s-Q2s, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A9o-A2o, KJo-K2o, Q2o+, J2o+, T3o+, 95o+, 85o+, 74o+, 64o+, 54o }
BB 28.17% 26.84% 1.33% { Jd9d }

Before bets on flop:
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Board: Kd9s4s
Equity Win Tie
CO 23.06% 21.77% 1.29% { 77-44, A9s-A2s, K9s-K2s, Q9s-Q4s, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, ATo-A2o, KJo-K6o, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }
BU 22.77% 21.72% 1.06% { 88-33, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T4s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A2o+, K3o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }
SB 16.50% 15.60% 0.90% { 66-22, A8s-A2s, K9s-K2s, Q9s-Q2s, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A9o-A2o, KJo-K2o, Q2o+, J2o+, T3o+, 95o+, 85o+, 74o+, 64o+, 54o }
BB 37.67% 35.86% 1.81% { Jd9d }

After flop Action:
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Board: Kd9s4s
Equity Win Tie
BU 26.11% 24.95% 1.16% { 88-33, AQs-A2s, K9s+, K4s, Q9s+, Q4s, J9s+, J4s, T9s, T4s, 95s+, 54s, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, Kc7c, Qc7c, Jc7c, Tc7c, 8c7c, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, Tc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Kc5c, Qc5c, Jc5c, Tc5c, 8c5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Kc3c, Qc3c, Jc3c, Kc2c, Qc2c, Jc2c, A2o+, K9o+, K4o, Q9o+, J8o+, T8o+, 97o+ }
SB 25.99% 23.92% 2.07% { 44, A4s, K9s, K4s, Q9s+, Q4s, J9s, J4s, T9s, T4s, 92s+, 84s, 74s, 64s, 54s, 42s+, 32s, JcTc, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, Ac7c, Kc7c, Qc7c, Jc7c, Tc7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, Tc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Kc5c, Qc5c, Jc5c, Tc5c, 8c5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Ac3c, Kc3c, Qc3c, Jc3c, Tc3c, 8c3c, 7c3c, 6c3c, 5c3c, Ac2c, Kc2c, Qc2c, Jc2c, Tc2c, 8c2c, 7c2c, 6c2c, 5c2c, A9o, A4o, KJo-K9o, K4o, Q9o+, Q4o, J9o+, J4o, T9o, T4o, 95o+, 74o, 64o, 54o, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s, Ac3d, Ac3h, Ac3s, Ac2d, Ac2h, Ac2s }
BB 47.90% 45.11% 2.79% { Jd9d }

Before Turn Action:
www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: Kd9s4sTc
Equity Win Tie
BU 30.56% 29.10% 1.46% { 88-33, AQs-A2s, K9s+, K4s, Q9s+, Q4s, J9s+, J4s, T9s, T4s, 95s+, 54s, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, Kc7c, Qc7c, Jc7c, Tc7c, 8c7c, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, Tc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Kc5c, Qc5c, Jc5c, Tc5c, 8c5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Kc3c, Qc3c, Jc3c, Kc2c, Qc2c, Jc2c, A2o+, K9o+, K4o, Q9o+, J8o+, T8o+, 97o+ }
SB 32.07% 29.82% 2.25% { 44, A4s, K9s, K4s, Q9s+, Q4s, J9s, J4s, T9s, T4s, 92s+, 84s, 74s, 64s, 54s, 42s+, 32s, JcTc, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, Ac7c, Kc7c, Qc7c, Jc7c, Tc7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, Tc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Kc5c, Qc5c, Jc5c, Tc5c, 8c5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Ac3c, Kc3c, Qc3c, Jc3c, Tc3c, 8c3c, 7c3c, 6c3c, 5c3c, Ac2c, Kc2c, Qc2c, Jc2c, Tc2c, 8c2c, 7c2c, 6c2c, 5c2c, A9o, A4o, KJo-K9o, K4o, Q9o+, Q4o, J9o+, J4o, T9o, T4o, 95o+, 74o, 64o, 54o, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s, Ac3d, Ac3h, Ac3s, Ac2d, Ac2h, Ac2s }
BB 37.38% 34.32% 3.05% { Jd9d }

After Turn Action:
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Board: Kd9s4sTc
Equity Win Tie
BU 63.98% 60.56% 3.43% { 44, KJs+, K9s, K4s, QJs, Q9s, J9s, T9s, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Kc8c, Ac7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, AKo, A9o, KQo, K9o, QJo, Q9o, J9o, T9o }
SB 17.40% 15.99% 1.42% { 44, A4s, K4s, QTs-Q9s, Q4s, J9s, J4s, 95s+, 93s-92s, 84s, 74s, 64s, 54s, 42s+, 32s, JcTc, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, Ac7c, Kc7c, Qc7c, Jc7c, Tc7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, Tc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Kc5c, Qc5c, Jc5c, Tc5c, 8c5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Ac3c, Kc3c, Qc3c, Jc3c, Tc3c, 8c3c, 7c3c, 6c3c, 5c3c, Ac2c, Kc2c, Qc2c, Jc2c, Tc2c, 8c2c, 7c2c, 6c2c, 5c2c, A4o, KJo, K4o, QTo-Q9o, Q4o, J9o+, J4o, T4o, 95o+, 74o, 64o, 54o }
BB 18.61% 14.51% 4.10% { Jd9d }

Before River Action:
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Board: Kd9s4sTc9h
Equity Win Tie
BU 40.73% 38.81% 1.93% { 44, KJs+, K9s, K4s, QJs, Q9s, J9s, T9s, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, JcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Kc8c, Ac7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, AKo, A9o, KQo, K9o, QJo, Q9o, J9o, T9o }
SB 3.24% 2.75% 0.48% { 44, A4s, K4s, QTs-Q9s, Q4s, J9s, J4s, 95s+, 93s-92s, 84s, 74s, 64s, 54s, 42s+, 32s, JcTc, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, Jc8c, Tc8c, Ac7c, Kc7c, Qc7c, Jc7c, Tc7c, 8c7c, Ac6c, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, Tc6c, 8c6c, 7c6c, Ac5c, Kc5c, Qc5c, Jc5c, Tc5c, 8c5c, 7c5c, 6c5c, Ac3c, Kc3c, Qc3c, Jc3c, Tc3c, 8c3c, 7c3c, 6c3c, 5c3c, Ac2c, Kc2c, Qc2c, Jc2c, Tc2c, 8c2c, 7c2c, 6c2c, 5c2c, A4o, KJo, K4o, QTo-Q9o, Q4o, J9o+, J4o, T4o, 95o+, 74o, 64o, 54o }
BB 56.03% 53.61% 2.41% { Jd9d }

When itís my turn:
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Board: Kd9s4sTc9h
Equity Win Tie
BU 52.76% 50.04% 2.72% { 44, KQs, KTs-K9s, K4s, QJs, Q9s, J9s, T9s, 97s+, Ac9c, 8c7c, 8c6c, 7c6c, AKo, A9o, KTo-K9o, QJo, Q9o, J9o, T9o }
SB 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% { QTs, KTo+, QTo, JTo }
BB 47.24% 44.51% 2.72% { Jd9d }

Final Thoughts: There just isnít the equity there to raise on the riverÖ. I will be interested to see what e people of the forum think, but yea, I donít think that we have enough equity in many ways. I think its close, and not a huge mistake though, because of how bad they really.



by...Hippy80


2+2 can be a scary place at first glance. Noob Corner is for those of us reading who are newer to these forums, want to make the best your time here, and maybe even make some good friends.



Hi, welcome back to Noob Corner.



Sorry I wasn't around last month, I blame the flu, and not the massive amount of food and wine I drank over Christmas. Really, it was the flu.



This month, we're going to be looking at the classic question that medium and long term posters will probably seen literally hundreds of times. "When should I go Pro?"



While most of us reading this aren't Professional Poker Players, we are aware of the time, effort, and financing it takes to get there, but nothing screams legitimacy than hearing these things from the horse mouth.



I'm lucky enough to have several known poker players as "friends" on social media sites (sick brag I know), and I thought, "Why not just ask?" So I did, this article is going to be the sum of the gems of wisdom I was given by these players.



The first response was from Neil Channing, internationally renowned player, and a key player in brining on new talent in the UK.



"In reply to "should I turn pro?"...


I wouldn't totally recommend it. Around 15% of poker players won money in 2011. Out of those probably about half of them didn't win in 2010 and won't win in 2012.


Now if we look at the ones of those eight percent who won more than £15k, we may be left with 3%. That means you can be in the top 10% in the country and maybe the top 5% for something and not make the average wage.


If you're dedicated though and you work and apply yourself it is possible though.


Internet poker makes it very easy to be your own boss and pick your own hours and live poker makes it possible to travel the world visiting nice places and possibly winning lots of money. It's pretty exciting.


If you want to do it I would urge you to always be working on your game, get coaching, watch training videos, discuss hands, read strategy and really think about the game.


I then normally go on to say that if you want to do it anyway, you should realise how lucky you are. For players starting today there are just so many more aids. There are sites like my own, Black Belt Poker, where you can hang out and chat about hands, meet up with other players, talk strategy and learn from each other. Other great sites like Pocket 5s and 2+2 can teach you so much.


Training sites like Bluefire Poker, Poker X Factor, Cardrunners and Deuces Cracked are all excellent and it's mad to not benefit from them.


There are so many more articles in more magazines, and lots of really high quality books around. You should just always be reading and absorbing.


Basically it is all a ton of hard work.


Like the man said:


"It's a tough way to make an easy living."



This got the conversation moving, and next to input was Nick Abou Risk, double UKIPT winner, and a former Poker Software Developer.



"I think Neil gave a pretty good response. I think guys should be consistently making more from poker part-time than in their full-time job and have several years (5-10) worth of living expenses saved up (instead of the old suggestion of 6 months...) before going pro. I think Neil gave a pretty good response. I think guys should be consistently making more from poker part-time than in their full-time job and have several years (5-10) worth of living expenses saved up (instead of the old suggestion of 6 months...) before going pro.[/i]



I did call out Nick for being overly nitty, and Max Silver (2 WSOPE Final Tables in 2011 and 16th in 2012's main event) certainly agreed with that assessment with some light hearted banter.



What everyone agreed on was the need to have a solid Bankroll Management Structure in place, and to err on the side of caution, ensuring that you have your expenses covered.



Andrew Ferguson (a very decent online tournament grinder) chipped in at this point commenting that with all the changes to Online Poker since Black Friday, people were still working out what is and isn't sustainable in the new poker environment, especially for those in the US with such limited access to action. But it's also a real issue for Euro players, with the French, Spanish, Italian player pools being segregated away from the general poker field.



Nick also pointed out that without a high degree of self motivation, and the will to put in the same amount of time as a "regular" full time job, both on and off the table, a new pro was very unlikely to improve, and be able to sustain a profitable record. He also added "If you aren't putting in much time, might as well do it part-time while working IMO."



With these guys really knowing what they're talking about, I'm more than happy to let their words speak to this subject, but I'll do my best to add in the TLR version:



1. Most poker players do not make a profit, and those that do make less than a "regular" job


2. Self-motivation is paramount, if you aren't willing to put in the work and time, it's not going to work out.


3. Use the resources available, with coaching sites and forums there to offer advice and training, you'd be a fool not to use them.


4. A proper BRM is massively important, as is ensuring you have all your bills covered for a significant period of time.


5. In this volatile period in Professional Poker, no-one really know what is a sustainable win rate, or hourly earning. We will only know this in time.



If you are still interested in turning pro after reading this, you will most likely have a lot to get ready. Take it slow, and if you aren't earning more at poker than you are at your day job, keep practising, training and getting better, and if you are destined to be the next Phil Ivey or Tom Dwan, you will see it in your results. Get ready to take the dive into the deep end, and prepare for the worst, make sure you will have a roof over your head, and food in your belly even if you end up on the sickest of downswings.



If you've found this advice helpful, I've done my job, and given back to this community. If you feel you want to gve back to me, any donations to the drinks bill I've run up getting these guys together will be gratefully accepted!







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A homeless man asks another man for two dollars. The man says "Will you use the money to buy booze?" The homeless man replies "No sir, I don't drink." The man then asks "Will you use the money to gamble?" The homeless man replies "No sir, I don't gamble." So the man says "Do me a favor and come home with me. I want my wife to see what happens to a man who doesn't drink or gamble."



A weekly Friday night poker game was going strong well into the midnight hour when one of the players from the game returned from a bathroom break with a shocked look to him. "David!" he said with urgency, "Come quick! Your wife is in the bathroom making love to your brother!". "Ok guys" David replied, "this is absolutely the last hand!"



What's the difference between a man praying at a poker table and another man praying in a church? The one at the poker table means it.

One evening a husband, thinking he was being funny, said to his wife, 'Perhaps we should start washing your clothes in 'Slim Fast'. Maybe it would take a few inches off of your butt!'



His wife was not amused, and decided that she simply couldn't let such a comment go unrewarded.The next morning the husband took a pair of underwear out of his drawer.. 'What the heck is this?' he said to himself as a little 'dust' cloud appeared when he shook them out. 'Phyllis', he hollered into the bathroom, 'Why did you put talcum powder in my underwear? She replied with a snicker. It's not talcum powder; it's 'Miracle Grow'!
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Re: "The Digest" February 2013

Hey,

I hate to be that guy who replies to a Stickied Digest like it's actually a thread, but I'm having trouble finding what I'm looking for and didn't know where else to ask.

There's a lot of Limit -> NL guides, but I was wondering if there's a Guide to Limit Poker for an NLHE player? Everything I've read is either so basic that it's painful for anyone who's studied NLHE for a long time to read (pot odds, position, etc), but when I move up to more intermediate stuff, I don't feel like I have my legs under me enough to get into specific concepts and spots.

Thank you!
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