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One of the oddest hands of the year... One of the oddest hands of the year...

12-28-2015 , 04:39 PM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2839153
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Admittedly have not played much this year due to work but.......


Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is MP1 with K A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps!, 1 fold, BTN calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls

What reads I have: sb is a reg at this level and plays several tables at once, whilst both btn and bb have been known to open limp and therefore are probably not the greatest LHE players in the world...


This is pretty standard I would suggest...

Flop: (24 SB) 7 T 2 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, BTN calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls

Getting a huge price and closing action..

Turn: (14.5 BB) 5 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, BTN calls, SB calls, BB calls

Well if you don't try you don't get; plus there seems to be have been an outbreak of slowplaying big hands recently - might help me understand where I am....

or on the other hand- guess not...(might get AK to fold)..We, at least, can surmise that bb/sb have not got huge hands as they have an auto-raise here

I'm actually happy with things up to here...now we get...

River: (19.5 BB) K (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, BTN checks

I don't like this check in retrospect; too MUBSY on my part? I would call a bet from MP2 (or anyone else actually) but would hate to get raised and pay another bet to find out I was behind (which is likely as I can't see anyone bluff-raising)


Spoiler:
Extra mince pies for anyone who has a clue what all (apart from MP2) are holding!!
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12-28-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Well if you don't try you don't get; plus there seems to be have been an outbreak of slowplaying big hands recently - might help me understand where I am....

or on the other hand- guess not...(might get AK to fold)..We, at least, can surmise that bb/sb have not got huge hands as they have an auto-raise here
I have no idea why you c/c the flop with any hand to lead this turn. What hand do you three bet that you play this way? Why would anyone fold anything?
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12-28-2015 , 06:01 PM
Turn bet is not good. What are you trying to accomplish? Are you value betting in the hope that somehow you'll have the plurality of equity after everyone else sticks a bet in? Are you bluffing? Why don't you just check and call a bet? I would never fold AK to your line (or really anything that has equity), and might even raise you thin or with hearts. See why betting AK is an error here?

River is worse IMO. $0.25/$0.50 is passive, you can (or at least should) get away from TPTK if a passive player like BTN or BB raise you. You even say it yourself that you don't see anyone bluff raising, so why can't you just fold when your equity is 0%? Because you think someone may raise KQ and think it's value? Besides that, you just got there against hands like Tx/JJ/QQ that got confused by your turn line, and can collect bets from all the one pair hands that are possibly out there.
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12-29-2015 , 12:22 PM
I'd check the turn with 100% of my range that got to that point.

As played I'd bet the river.
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12-29-2015 , 04:36 PM
Super misleading title!
Did you roll yourself straight to .25/.50 or grind up from below?
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01-01-2016 , 09:38 PM
Your turn-river line makes no sense. On the turn, how likely are you to have the best hand in a 5-way pot, and what are you hoping to fold out when everyone will be getting at least 15.5:1?

Then on the river you make your hand and check. Why?
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01-04-2016 , 03:49 AM
extra mobnies if you can tell me wtf you were thinking on the turn and river! BTW, I read your comments and they really don't make sense (especially on the turn).
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01-04-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bravos1
extra mobnies if you can tell me wtf you were thinking on the turn and river! BTW, I read your comments and they really don't make sense (especially on the turn).
Yes.

No offense, OP, but I do think after reviewing some of your previous threads where I've commented, that you could stand to re-evaluate how you play some standard spots. Two hands you posted, you flopped a monster and weren't sure on whether you should bet and raise (in around 95-99% of situations, you should bet and raise). This hand, you have Ace hi 5 ways, and suddenly you want to bet. Then you make an almost certainly good top pair (remember, there's only 45 flush combos total, versus all the weaker pairs that can call you) and you check. You're possibly playing backwards in a form of poker where even big winners are massive calling stations in many spots (not saying I'm a massive winner, but I definitely had my share of King hi calldowns at 40/80 over the weekend).

In this MW situation, you should be even more apt to bet, as being right about having the best hand can net you 1-4 big bets extra, and you'll be right the majority of the time. Being wrong, even if you can't fold, costs 2 bets (and it's really not the end of the world to never fold a value hand in a 20+ big bet pot for a single bet. Even if it's a full 1 BB leak, it's a rare event, and a leak that pretty much everyone has).

At $0.35/$0.50, you're still low enough to just use jon_locke's rule of postflop play:

Is my hand good? If yes, then bet/raise.
Is my hand too good to fold but not good enough to bet/raise? Then check/call.
Is my hand not good enough to raise or call? Then fold.

In this case, your hand is not good (Ace hi 5 ways on the turn), but it's too good to fold (4 cards to non-flush completing TPTK, 2 to flush completing TPTK), so you check and call.
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