OFFICIAL MicroStakesLIMIT stats thread (part 2)

[GambleGamble]

Found that post and adjusted accordingly


Hope I got the size right this time, I can read it so hope others can

[JamesBJames]

In probable order of importance:

Read up on how position affects what hands you play, and then start playing a lot more hands from late position. Your VPIP/PFR should not be constant across all positions.

Cold-call less.

Probably tighten up your VPIP range very slightly; it might also help to try to more spots to raise PF.

3-bet a lot more.

Find more hands to steal with from late position, although I would guess the situation doesn't even come up too often at FR .1/.2.

[GambleGamble]

Originally Posted by JamesBJames

In probable order of importance:

Read up on how position affects what hands you play, and then start playing a lot more hands from late position. Your VPIP/PFR should not be constant across all positions.

Gotcha, I knowing there tends to be many more multi way flops I know I have opened up my calling range early and getting raised etc and that eats up a lot

Cold-call less
Similar to above, I know its going multi pot so I respect less raises to be honest. I need to tighten that up

Probably tighten up your VPIP range very slightly; it might also help to try to more spots to raise PF.
Assume word is missing but I get it...same as above I gotta lay down more middling hands early

3-bet a lot more.
1 thing I have noticed is people are less likely to call 3 than 2 bets yet many will still call regardless as we know

Find more hands to steal with from late position, although I would guess the situation doesn't even come up too often at FR .1/.2.
1 off the blind tends to raise a lot at this limit, at least with me so it eliminated the steal potential, I def dont feel like I do it enough. Its also .10/.20 but I dont know if this section calls it that

I unfortunately know some of my leaks are mental, A lot of times I know I am beat but Ill still call down on the cheap just to see it. I tend to justify by saying I am building info on the player for later but mostly I am just annoyed.

I also go to many bets in cases on the flop with high pairs, Ill have to find some hand examples and post them in a strat thread.

FWIW I used to beat 8/16 live when I lived in Vegas for a while but been out of the game for 4yrs so I feel I am leaking like the titanic and Ill be hitting Vegas in a month so I would like to make it a profitable trip.

Thanks for the insight

[Tapirboy]

Originally Posted by murderface

stats check, please. i know im doing something wrong

Play a lot more hands from the button. Defend your BB a lot more. Post attempt to steal and blind defense stats next time. You're getting creamed in the blinds, so you might find somebody to match up with in the issue specific reviews thread.

[Tapirboy]

Gamble, do the 100/100/100 challenge IMO.

[Leroy2DaBeroy]

Gamble,

Please check my "template stats" post or whatever I called it earlier in this thread.

[GambleGamble]

Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

Gamble,

Please check my "template stats" post or whatever I called it earlier in this thread.

I did, I made the PT3 exactly as yours was?

[GambleGamble]

Originally Posted by Tapirboy

Gamble, do the 100/100/100 challenge IMO.

is it this

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/35...micros-322692/

and why should I ... for being a noob to this part of 2p2

[Leroy2DaBeroy]

Originally Posted by GambleGamble

I did, I made the PT3 exactly as yours was?

Post 17 ITT.

[Tapirboy]

Originally Posted by GambleGamble

is it this

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/35...micros-322692/

and why should I ... for being a noob to this part of 2p2

Yes, that, because once you've done it you will be more confident raising preflop.

[GambleGamble]

Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

Post 17 ITT.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/35...estone-564396/

Seeing as this is the thread and there is no post 17 this guy is confused.

[GambleGamble]

Originally Posted by Tapirboy

Yes, that, because once you've done it you will be more confident raising preflop.

My PFR is 10.7??


I might do the 100/100/100 anyways just because it seems interesting, don't know if would want to do at .10/.20 not because of the stakes just because I don't wanna skew my stats and jack up any table image I am building.

Or maybe I should jack it up so people think I am a huge fish and once I play normal they I can reap some initial benefits.

[Tapirboy]

Originally Posted by GambleGamble

My PFR is 10.7??

Which, in the context of decent players, is very low. It looks to me like you're limping a lot of hands you should be raising.

[GambleGamble]

Originally Posted by Tapirboy

Which, in the context of decent players, is very low. It looks to me like you're limping a lot of hands you should be raising.

For FR stats, a target range is ~0.5 of your VPIP or a 2:1 ratio of VPIP:PFR. Based on the ranges listed above for VPIP, we can come up with a PFR range of ~8%-11% for a strong aggressive, yet tight player.

From what I read before my PFR was within range and right near half my VPiP?

Do not get me wrong I am all for being more aggressive. I am about to do a session so Ill apply it and see what happens...its only money right.

[Tapirboy]

Originally Posted by GambleGamble

For FR stats, a target range is ~0.5 of your VPIP or a 2:1 ratio of VPIP:PFR. Based on the ranges listed above for VPIP, we can come up with a PFR range of ~8%-11% for a strong aggressive, yet tight player.

I'm curious where you got this. I hesitate to say anything is flat wrong, but I consider any player with a 2:1 VPIP:PFR ratio to be quite bad. Around 3:1 is better, and some good FR players are north of 4:1.