OFFICIAL MicroStakesLIMIT stats thread (part 2)

[Leroy2DaBeroy]

Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

Cut back the cold-calling. 3! more, instead. ATS is low. Look for steal opportunities in the SB - you can easily get above 50% for SB ATS. Major thing (IMO) is to open up your PFR range in EP. I think you can pretty easily get to 8-10%. Basically, take your UTG+2 range and slide it over to UTG (minus maybe a couple hands).

Still a lot of this ^^, OTA.

Probably move up if your BR is good for it (maybe after working a few k hands on these things?)

Perhaps not so much this, atm.

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Edit: And cut back the tables/hours, IMO. How many of each are you playing?

2nd Edit: I did the rough math, 10 hours/day 12-13 tabling? Blah, no wonder...

[ontiltagain]

more like 6-7 hours 16-22 tables,I think the volume is getting to me as well though.

[sheekst38]

Hey guys,

I have poted stats in the olf thread for .25/.50 6 max but have played more hands sence and have different thing id like to ask , hope its alright to repost them if not , Sorry,

Passive play kind of works out well in the .1/.2 games cause the players are worse and they tend to do the betting themselves , but @ .25/.5 not being more aggresive is i think what is causeing the difference in the 2 winrates, Is there any thing any1 can say about my stats @.25/.5 to indicate spots i should be more aggresive in , Should i be showing down more @ .25/.5 , I rem reading somewhere on 2+2 before that an AFq of 40 or less is considered bad and that 55% is about right , i am wondering how do i get to 55% from where i am now, If there is any other stats i should post please let me know, TY in advance,

[JQPublic777]

ozi, why blank out the winnings? You know we could just determine it by the bb/100.

[JQPublic777]

sheekst, you might just be running bad. The only one stat that pops out to me is your flop cbet percentage. I like to keep mine in the range of 85-90%. One thing you will learn as you get more experience is that everybody at that stakes calls down lightly and there are alot of multi-way pots. The negative side of that is that it's way harder to raise to protect your hand; therefore, a lot of people in the pot are getting good odds to draw to two pair, trips, and backdoor flushes. The positive side of course is that if you don't get sucked out on, you take down a big pot. When you are in a hand, you should try to figure how good your hand is equity wise compared to the board. Sometimes a c-bet is just a flat out bluff. Against the wrong opponents, double barrel bluffing to make the other person fold the best hand does not work when you are against calling stations. Also, you have to think about all the times you are c-betting into two-four people. You could save a bet there.

About vpip/pfr, i try not to get caught up w/ what mine should be. The games can be kind of diverse when you multi-table. I could be at a table full of nitty tags, but have a donater to my right. So i would probably be raising more than 20 percent of my hands to isolate. Or, i might be in a really juicy game where there is a 76/10 to my left and 90/5 to my right. I try to discipline myself so i dont' raise marginal hands when i know that there is a 9/10 that i'm going to be coldcalled and up against a non-foldy, showdown-bound player.

The best thing you can do for this limit is learn how to hand read and develop your edges postflop (i.e.- learn what type of opponents to checkraise, know when your midpair isn't good, etc.) Eventually, you will learn on what type of boards a three-barrel bluff is successful. It will all come together.

Stealing too is another thing that caught my eye. I steal around 38 percent, but it's kind of misleading. I see regs all the time stealing w/ garbage against me. It's kind of insulting sometimes. Who you steal against could be a leak. You should try to get into more hands w/ fish, but try to steer clear of raising marginal hands against a reg. Unless the reg folds more than 50 percent of the time. After you acct for the rake, those types of players become really profitable to steal against.

Good luck

[sheekst38]

Thank you for that Distajo, I kind of cbet every flop hu or 3 handed cause i read it in WITHG, (lol @.25/.5 being a tough holdem game i know) , is it massivly wrong to be doing it at these stakes,

[JQPublic777]

Exactly. A lot of the stuff is applicable from WITHG, but the semi-bluffing when you catch a flush draw card on the turn play does not work enough to make it a profitable play imo. No fold equity

I wouldn't say it's massively wrong. But as you get better at hand reading, you will see why it's pointless. It's hard to cbet into 3 people out of position on a very drawish board.

I edited my last post and added something about stealing.

[Errorman]

Hi

I have been successfully making money since the beginning of the year.
I deposited $50, I am now @ $380. I have played over 10000 hands.
I basically have been playing only at $0.25/0.50 limit poker. I'm now planning to switch to $0.50/1 tables.

It would be nice to get some feedback of my game.

The stats are following:
I have won 12% of my hands.
My flop % is below 20. Preflop raise is 15%.
I have won 38% of hands when I saw flop.
10% of my hands went to showdown, however 56% of showdowns I have won.

Comment and thoughts are welcome.

[McNeese72]

My thought is you need to find the stat thread. That is were this post belongs.

Welcome to the forum.

doc

[OziBattler]

Originally Posted by Distajo

ozi, why blank out the winnings? You know we could just determine it by the bb/100.

it was a half assed attempt to disguise my digust at my $ results at 2/4 mostly for my own sanity plus i figured people wouldnt be bothered looking doing that but would see my bb/100 as a guide that ive got some work to do and/or variance working against me.

last night i went over the stats of a winning reg and apart from a few subtle things many of our numbers were the very similar...its kind of frustrating tbh but based on the comments ive gotten and my analysis of my play/stats ive got a few tweaks to do to get where i want to be

thx all

[JQPublic777]

Ozi, some of those tweaks might involve not playing furbean or fua.

[OziBattler]

[GambleGamble]

1700 hands into my 10k goal so I can get some real help... Im a PokerTracker newb also essentially so Im gonna need some help screen shotting and posting right stats...

[Jhereg]

If your in vista you can use the Snipping Tool in accessories to take a screen shot. It's vaguely annoying but if you preset the window(like reduce column width so all fits in one picture) you want to screen shot ahead of time that makes it easier.

[dragon1893]

Originally Posted by Distajo

Exactly. A lot of the stuff is applicable from WITHG, but the semi-bluffing when you catch a flush draw card on the turn play does not work enough to make it a profitable play imo. No fold equity

psst

fish donk with air many times...