OFFICIAL MicroStakesLIMIT stats thread (part 2)

[Leroy2DaBeroy]

Cut back the cold-calling. 3! more, instead. ATS is low. Look for steal opportunities in the SB - you can easily get above 50% for SB ATS. Major thing (IMO) is to open up your PFR range in EP. I think you can pretty easily get to 8-10%. Basically, take your UTG+2 range and slide it over to UTG (minus maybe a couple hands).

Probably move up if your BR is good for it (maybe after working a few k hands on these things?)

[ontiltagain]

Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

Cut back the cold-calling. 3! more, instead. ATS is low. Look for steal opportunities in the SB - you can easily get above 50% for SB ATS. Major thing (IMO) is to open up your PFR range in EP. I think you can pretty easily get to 8-10%. Basically, take your UTG+2 range and slide it over to UTG (minus maybe a couple hands).

Probably move up if your BR is good for it (maybe after working a few k hands on these things?)

Thanks for the help Leroy,I'll fiddle with those ideas the next couple days.Im already rolled for a step up,but I wont move up till the fine tuning is done.I assume each step up will be tougher(could bring more variance)so I was thinking 700 big bets would be good for .50/1.I been playing 4k-7k hands a day,it might be hurting my focus a little as well.

ontiltagain

[Tosh]

Is there a way of seeing how often you check-fold to a flop bet after defending your bb heads up?

[Jhereg]

Tosh, I'm curious if this answers your question. In PokerTracker, Filter by:
General: Hands with 2 players seeing the flop
Facing: Preflop: Facing Steal in BB: pick 3 Bet + Called
Actions: Flop: Check + Fold
Actions: Flop: Continuation Bet OPP

Is that what your looking at?

[Tosh]

Sort of, though I don't want to look at the steals I 3 bet against, just the ones I flat call. I feel a bit like I'm folding too often to continuation bets on the flop but at the same time if I don't catch at least a small piece of the flop I can't see how I can continue without some very spewy lines.

[Searix]

Ok, i'm making a pitstop here. I think i'm leaking bad, but i can't figure out where.




One thing it might be: Should i be calling or 3!ing TT-JJ? Is AKo a 4! ?

Also calling raises in BB with 56s-910s heads up, or any 1-gappers off 56+ against 2 others.

If it's not those i can't think of anything

[JamesBJames]

Originally Posted by Searix

One thing it might be: Should i be calling or 3!ing TT-JJ? Is AKo a 4! ?

3!ing, 3!ing, yes.

Originally Posted by Searix

Also calling raises in BB with 56s-910s heads up, or any 1-gappers off 56+ against 2 others.

It sorta depends on what position the raise comes from. For example, I won't call 56s in the BB against an UTG raiser most of the time, but I would not dream of folding it against a button opener. For the most part, I doubt that it would be much of an error regardless, provided you c/r bluff a few flops here and there.

Calling 56o in the BB against a raiser and a cold-caller is also completely fine, imo.

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As for your stats, it's good that you've reduced your cold-calling so drastically. Some stuff I see right off the bat still:

At .25/.5 - and at FR to add - it looks like you're going to showdown entirely too often. I'd post a few hands where you question whether or not you should see showdown, because it's possible that you're being too stubborn and never folding.

Small sample size aside, you're way, way, way over-defending your SB. What's your opening range on the SB? Isolating range against different positions? 3!ing ranges?

You're only c-betting the flop 88% of the time, which seems really low. Are you just in a ton of 4-way+ pots with bad people, are you checking and giving up too quickly, etc.?

Have you ironed out most of your PF play yet? Your PF stats look a lot better, but I saw that one post in the SN grinders thread where you had, what, K4s in the SB, and you called 2.5 bets after a raise and a 3!? If you're doing that kind of stuff regularly, you're going to end up bleeding money.

[Searix]

Originally Posted by JamesBJames

Small sample size aside, you're way, way, way over-defending your SB. What's your opening range on the SB? Isolating range against different positions? 3!ing ranges?

SB:
Open: suited 1 gappers 22+, 56+, Q-Kxs, Ax, 98o+
Iso: UTG-MP: 22+, 56s+, QJo+, ATo+
CO-BTN: 22+, 56s+, 109o+, Axo+
2+: 22+, 56s+, 67o+, QTo+, ATo+
3!: 99+, AJs+, AQo+

You're only c-betting the flop 88% of the time, which seems really low. Are you just in a ton of 4-way+ pots with bad people, are you checking and giving up too quickly, etc.?

Normally 95%ish, insane amount of AQo 4-way Kxx flops.

Have you ironed out most of your PF play yet? Your PF stats look a lot better, but I saw that one post in the SN grinders thread where you had, what, K4s in the SB, and you called 2.5 bets after a raise and a 3!? If you're doing that kind of stuff regularly, you're going to end up bleeding money.

Yah calling it with a 3! was a bit of spew (i actually think i misclicked, i call one raise).

http://www.lowlimitholdem.com/articl...ing_hands.html

My starting hands bible.

[Searix]

Also, said requested more hands:

[prfsr_cain]

You seem to defend your sb too much. I would say 75-85% is ideal. Your ATS is too low, especially from the sb. SB ATS should be > 50% imo. And > 40% from BTN. You go to showdown way too much. There is no set number for that, but it should be in the 30s. Don't be so stubborn

[Leroy2DaBeroy]

There's no money in Rush. Everyone's solid.

[Searix]

Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy

There's no money in Rush. Everyone's solid.

Only way to improve Leroy is to post my adjusted stats and learn from them

[OziBattler]

i think im in need of a stats checkup. im trying figure out why 2/4 and 3/6 are causing me problems in the way 1/2 and 0.5/1 arent. theres more reg on reg action and in my experience ALOT more Checkraising at 2/4 and 3/6 and more lighter calldowns in said reg on reg action which i partake in selectively.

this is pretty much all playing 15-24 tables and is filtered for > 6 players at limits 0.5/1 to 3/6. theres a few things in there that im not totally happy with (eg W2SD) but feel free to point everything out anyway.

theres a crapload of reports in HEM so i just grabbed these. if theres any others i should do lemme know. ty.

[JBack]

I just got back into poker a few weeks ago and promised myself that I would be more analytical with my game.

One of the things I have spotted recently in HEM was the graph that showed winnings/showdown winnings/non showdown winnings. My graph looks pretty rough with the showdown winnings moving way up and the non showdown winnings dropping way down.

I started searching the forums and found the apparent epic thread of Fgators and I feel like the red line could be a leak in my game.

The question I have is does the red line mean the same in LHE as it does NL?
Is a negative red line that runs completely opposite of the blue line a leak? How many players have both lines that stay positive?

Some Quick stats for reference:
8k hands played at .50/1.00 and 1/2.00
VPIP 25.10
PFR 9.5
WTSD 38
W$SD% 56
BB/100 2.25

[OziBattler]

Is a negative red line that runs completely opposite of the blue line a leak?

nope not necessarily

How many players have both lines that stay positive?

none imo.

for limit holdem you should basically ignore the red and the blue.

8k hands played at .50/1.00 and 1/2.00
VPIP 25.10
PFR 9.5
WTSD 38
W$SD% 56
BB/100 2.25

also you PFR is too low and/or your vpip is too high assuming this is fullring