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Old 03-28-2012, 11:55 PM   #1
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Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

Villain: A hair under 600 hands. 55/7/35. If you need anything more, just ask.

As played, I didn't want to just "Call" this hand. Of course being OOP sucks with a hand such as this. Any paired J, Q, K or A beats us. I was hoping to fold Villain (The CO) PF as he had to call 2, albeit after a limp. He didn't, so I was like, damn. ISO didn't work against a limper who limps everything but what seems like big hands. Oh well. I figured the BTN was raising a wide range of hands (31/29/72, although only LOL 51 hands) and this hand would play pretty well HU against him.

My question about the hand becomes, should I have went into x/Call mode after everyone continued after the Flop? Or is betting out right in this situation?

Merge - $0.10/$0.20 (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $5.37
CO: $8.70
BTN: $7.00
SB: $2.17
Hero (BB): $6.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has T T

fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.95, 3 players) 2 J 5
Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

Turn: ($1.25, 3 players) 4
Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

River: ($1.85, 3 players) 2
Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20, fold

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Old 03-29-2012, 06:51 AM   #2
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

nh. I can't see a reason to even consider something else.
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:36 AM   #3
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

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My question about the hand becomes, should I have went into x/Call mode after everyone continued after the Flop?
Why would you want to starting x/calling on the turn? What ranges are you putting these villians on?


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Or is betting out right in this situation?
Answering the first question will give the answer to this question.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:17 PM   #4
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

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Old 03-29-2012, 03:13 PM   #5
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

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Why would you want to starting x/calling on the turn? What ranges are you putting these villians on?0

I just felt the Jack fell into either one of their ranges. So does the Str8 Draw. I can see CO limp/calling with something like A3, J10, QJ or KJ. Even A5, K5, K2, (substitute the K with a Q or J, too) in which case I would still be ahead (Suited or offsuit) with the exception of the J. I can see the BTN raising with a similar hand (with the exception of K5 and/or K2 type of hands).

When I led the Turn and both called, I was thinking at least one was on a draw. The BTN fold on the Rvr kind of confirmed that. My guess was BTN was on a busted draw. But CO seemed determined to SD. Which led me to believe that they hit the flop, in which case I was either WA or WB. I don't believe he would SD against 2 w/A high.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:12 PM   #6
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

A J would typically have raised the flop. Keep betting until someone tells you to slow down.

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Old 03-29-2012, 04:48 PM   #7
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A J would typically have raised the flop.
I wouldn't say that's always the case...
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I wouldn't say that's always the case...
If not the flop, then the turn. If neither you've got a good note nh
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I just felt the Jack fell into either one of their ranges. So does the Str8 Draw. I can see CO limp/calling with something like A3, J10, QJ or KJ. Even A5, K5, K2, (substitute the K with a Q or J, too) in which case I would still be ahead (Suited or offsuit) with the exception of the J. I can see the BTN raising with a similar hand (with the exception of K5 and/or K2 type of hands).

When I led the Turn and both called, I was thinking at least one was on a draw. The BTN fold on the Rvr kind of confirmed that. My guess was BTN was on a busted draw. But CO seemed determined to SD. Which led me to believe that they hit the flop, in which case I was either WA or WB. I don't believe he would SD against 2 w/A high.
Looks pretty good op. maybe throw in a few pocket pairs 66-99, suited connectors 65,75.

When you 3bet the preflop and continued your aggression a quote come to mind from one of my favorite posters "aggression is the cost of being out of position" You played your hand perfectly.

Keep this in mind whether you won or lost this hand.
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:12 PM   #10
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

Thank you very much for the feedback everyone!

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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

eh... and just for my poker education...that guy...CO...with J8o...did he play right?
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eh... and just for my poker education...that guy...CO...with J8o...did he play right?
IMO, no he should have raised TP for value at some point, probably on the flop and lead the turn
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

I don't completley hate it if he has J8o, AJ, and i hate it, but j8.... eh, not terrible.
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Re: Merge 10/20FL 6M...Pocket 10's OOP

nh


CO should raise the flop to protect his hand. No reason to let Button draw cheap to his overcards.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:39 PM   #15
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I don't completley hate it if he has J8o, AJ, and i hate it, but j8.... eh, not terrible.
Don't you want to protect your hand as well as get value out of your TP? The line the CO took seems very passive with J8o
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