PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
3 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button caps, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (12 SB) 9, Q, Q (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls

River: (10.5 BB) A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets, Hero calls, BB calls

Total pot: $1.35 (13.5 BB) | Rake: $0.04

No reads on either player so far. Pre I was a little worried about the cap in case of AA but when both flatted the flop I figured I'm good, probs up against smaller pairs or AK looking to peel. I'm getting over 10/1 on a call on the river although I'm certain the BB will overcall and I'll be shown Ax by one or both of them . Is the price too good to make the call here? Or should I save the BB when it's likely I'm beat?

Don't understand the donk bet into the preflop capper, explain?

Are you good here one out of 11.5 times? Are you good here 0.086956521.... percent of the time?

Obv. the answer is yes. So the big question is how likely it is to get raised behind you by the BB.

Since he has shown zero aggression, it doesn't seem worth considering over the long run.

Folding the winning hand here is a MUCH bigger mistake than calling with a losing one. You can call with a losing hand several times, but the times when calling with the winning hand makes up for that +.

Didn't want to give AK, TT, JJ, or even Ace-rag a free card if both checked behind, and if I was raised it would surely indicate a queen. Would a check/raise have been better? Surely if I check, the capper's gonna c bet anyway and I have no info on his hand?

I like a x/r better than a donk on this flop. Any of the hands you listed are not going away for a single small bet. Donking also doesn't define their hands as well as you think, isn't Qx likely to wait until the turn?

Yeah I see what you mean, thanks. BTW, what would we do on the turn if we c/r flop and get called by both players? Can we safely assume that one of them has a Q and c/f? Also, what if we are 3-bet by the BTN on the flop? That passive BB acting after me really makes it a tricky one I think, I'd be interested to see what you think.

No, hands like KT or JT , even TT , or 88, might hang around. Especially at these stakes. The board is paired, they might put you on nothing.

Assuming one of the two people has a Q just because they both call a check raise at $0.10 is a big mistake IMO.

If you are only called by both, I like betting the turn. Torn between b/f and b/c we do still have outs and the pot's getting big

To put it another way, this is a big pot, and you have a non-trivial equity in it. Check folding just because people called is a losing proposition.

If it 75 cents on the turn, and you only have to call one, probably two (but not definitely) more bets, you lose equity by folding. It only would cost you 20 cents (at most, sometimes only ten).

You have enough equity to continue. You can always fold to raises/ scary cards later.

If the button 3bets your x/r and the BB comes along I would call and probably c/c one on this turn. The A is an awful card on the river probably an easy c/f IMO like to hear others thoughts

Pot is too big for me to fold, JT is the only draw that could come in. Dure someone has an ace or Q. But how often exactly, and how often do we need to win?

THe pot is going to be huge with all that flop action in that scenario, and we will be folding for one bet.

We will only need to win what, like 8 percent of the time? (on river, in that scenario)

*EDIT if the flop is 3bet, we add 6 small bets, which is 3 big bets, assuming the turn and river go 1-1-1-, or 1-0-1, we are looking at at least 13-1 odds.

Am I leaking by calling here? Even if it's a mistake it wont be a big one?

I don't think donking is bad here - most likely your representing a T9s or JTs and no one is folding to this donk.

If you c/r, your repping the Q and either could kill your action or face you with calling another bet to hit 2 outs or your bdsd vs someone with a Q and you could still be behind AA that calls you down.

tho this is probly too passive, I probably just let the preflop capper barrel off and call down hoping that both players have weaker pairs or draws and come along - we make more this way than if we c/r flop and one or both players fold their draw or smaller pp.

The river sux, but gotta call - btn could think his JJ or TT's are good here when it's checked to him..

With this A on the river what are we beating that's in his cap PF 3bet flop range other than just spewy bluffs? Make the river a blank and I agree it's a calldown

We also have to keep in mind that this is $0.10, and we seem to be ruling out total idiocy, which is delightfully common at these stakes, there is no way I am c/f the river in this scenario.


Higher stakes it is worth thinking about.

-No reads-

-$0.10-

I add some extra hands to his range because we are playing 0.10.

I am not confident I am correct on the river, but I have seen some very strange bad hands at showdown , and I like to factor in fishyness/entertainment plyers etc/ at micros.

This factor is maybe like a 12 percent variation on my decisions. It's very significant at low stakes, lol.