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Old 12-10-2011, 10:31 AM   #61
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Re: Hands I've played badly

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What's wrong with just betting the river?
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If you're willing to put in two bets on the river, why not do it in such a way as to see SD? b/c, imo. Or if you want to take a more cautious line: c/c for one. Showing down would be nice, though.
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Old 12-10-2011, 12:12 PM   #62
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Re: Hands I've played badly

goof,

i like the idea of the river c/r and you managed to c/r/f so good job. the problem i have is i'm not sure which hands bb is betting for you after you check the river. JJ? AQ? seems like most of his holdings that arrive here are checking behind or have you crushed but might call if you bet instead.
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:44 PM   #63
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Good hand to bump this thread with.

Live 8/16 - button opens he's taggish but not to be concerned about, I 3bet in SB with A A tight middle aged asian guy caps.

Flop is K 9 3
checks around.

Turn is Q
I bet, BB calls, Btn calls.

River is 4
I check, BB bets, button calls, I checkraise, BB 3bet, button folds, I fold.

Gross.
OTR, it looks like QQ or KK and don't think you win at all when he 3-bets.
Your description/read, coupled with my limited experience at live play, makes me think that he's not moronic and wouldn't play JJ or TT like that OTR nor cap pf with AQ, JT, JJ-TT.

After seeing the turn go call, call, I'd bet/call river.
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Also goof where is this game? Are you still in pdx or sea or what?
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:45 PM   #65
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BB never has AK there?
after he 3bets the river? Nope.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:02 PM   #66
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If you're willing to put in two bets on the river, why not do it in such a way as to see SD? b/c, imo. Or if you want to take a more cautious line: c/c for one. Showing down would be nice, though.
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goof,

i like the idea of the river c/r and you managed to c/r/f so good job. the problem i have is i'm not sure which hands bb is betting for you after you check the river. JJ? AQ? seems like most of his holdings that arrive here are checking behind or have you crushed but might call if you bet instead.
tyler nailed it. Given the action thus far - he can't really have anything that bets fro value that I beat.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:03 PM   #67
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Also goof where is this game? Are you still in pdx or sea or what?
It was at parkers which is about 5 miles north of seattle.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:49 AM   #68
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i guess reports of the death of parkers have been exaggerated.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:46 AM   #69
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goof,

i like the idea of the river c/r and you managed to c/r/f so good job. the problem i have is i'm not sure which hands bb is betting for you after you check the river. JJ? AQ? seems like most of his holdings that arrive here are checking behind or have you crushed but might call if you bet instead.
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I find it difficult to see how bb wouldn't bet/raise kings or queens on the flop or turn. He could have got two pairs on the turn, or he could have missed a straight draw on the river.
There are 9BB in the pot at the river, and if at the river I put bb on QQ+, AQs+, KJs+, AQo+, KQo you have 50% equity. I want him to call the times I have him beat. If you are sure he won't raise anything you can beat then bet fold, otherwise bet call river for me. Edit - and take a note!

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