This was maybe the 10th or 12th hand of the session. No really good reads on anyone. The two I did have reads on folded pre-flop. Table was loose/aggressive.

Any merit in this fold or was it a stupid thing to do?

Thanks for the replies.

0.1/0.2 Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($11.18)
UTG 1 ($7.96)
MP1 ($6.37)
MP2 ($3.40)
MP3 ($2.63)
CO ($4.02)
BTN ($2.21)
Hero ($4.72)
BB ($2.35)

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 9 players) Hero is SB A A
1 fold, UTG 1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG 1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Flop: 8 6 9 (13.0 SB, 6 players)
Hero bets, UTG 1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, BTN calls

Turn: 7 (9.0 BB, 5 players)
Hero bets, UTG 1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, BTN calls, MP3 says "zzzzzz", Hero folds

River: K (16.0 BB, 3 players)
UTG 1 bets, MP3 calls, BTN calls

[Results Hidden]

I actually like to check fold the turn there. But yes good fold imo.

That would be awful.

And this isn't much better.

Bad fold, OP. You're playing a limit where players are spazzy. You don't have any other read. You're getting overlay from the two players in the middle. You're getting 16:1 immediate odds, closing the action. The raiser is on your immediate left, putting you relatively on the button on the river (i.e. when you check the river, you'll be likely last to act). And there's only one hand you're drawing dead against. Granted, your chopping outs ain't so good in a family pot, but whatever.

Don't fold. I know the board obviously sucks for AA, but the pot is too huge for you to fold for one more bet. You have 8 possible chopping outs and even though it doesn't seem like it, there's a slim chance that you may even still be best despite the action.

Don't fold in this massive pot for one bet closing the action, please.

Ok, say UTG1 holds a T, is it still correct to call his raise and check/call the river? Don't turn raises mean a big hand usually?

1) You don't know that he holds a ten. A raise usually represents strength, but if that was only the case, poker would be easy. He could be bluffing or raising a worse hand too, you know.

2) Hypothetically, though, let's say we knew somehow UTG1 held a 5 or T 100% of the time and that if we call the turn raise, the other two players in the hand will never show up with a better hand. How many outs do we have respectively against a 5 or a T? Is it enough to call?
- If you don't have enough outs, then roughly, how much of the time does UTG1 have to raise a non-straight hand? (ps: i'll try to do math on this because I think the situation is interesting)

Yeah, I kinda realized during my math that because of the fact that we're basically playing for 1/4th of the pot that we really can't call as much as I thought we could. That's why I'm trying to do the math to see how often he can raise with a worse hand for us to be able to call.

I might end up changing my choice, ldo.

lulz, I eraized id .. I realized that we might have a lot of chop outs in a huge pot ... things just got harder ... me I still think I give up

This fold is correct. I would not even have bet the turn. You are done with this hand when the turn came.

I understand the pot is relatively big, but our outs may not even help us. So what's the value in calling if we are drawing nearly dead here. I'm sure at these stakes with as many people that are in the pot at least one of them is likely to have a Ten OR a five. The only value in this hand is if someone hasn't made their straight on the turn and has only a pair.

Exactly. It's VERY likely their combined ranges include a ten or five.

Also...
Why? We are hoping for a running A and pair the board? We still don't have the odds to draw to that. Trips or a pair are not a viable here when the turn hits IMO. The best case scenario like I said before is someone is overplaying top pair or even two pair which we are behind.

Make up your mind.

Because the pot is massive.

No, because you've ignored your possible outs to chop.




The best scenario includes chopping, too.

Look, you're not winning this very often. But you're getting 16:1 and you're closing the action. If you're having any trouble at all deciding on whether folding/calling is appropriate, then call when the pot is mammoth and you close the action. Fold when the pot is small and you may have to pay more BBs to see the river.

Also, you have no read other than the table being loose and aggressive in an orbit and a half to guide you.

the turn is NOT CLOSE to a bet. you are beaten an overwhelming majority of the time when that turn card falls. check and see what happens. if it gets raised anywhere on the turn, you fold. if it gets bet and called twice, fold. if the last guy bets, call. the other cases are more difficult.

facing the raise, this is seriously an instant fold. the raiser almost always has a straight. if he doesn't, one of the other dudes has a five or a ten a lot. you are drawing to a possible chop.

lol boz wtf are you talking about