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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with 9 A
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, BB checks

Flop: (4 SB) 3 6 9 (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls

Turn: (3.5 BB) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 raises, Hero folds

i put villian on small pairs , suited + conn & some high cards as they limp

so i thought betting flop & turn can give me value against small pairs & missed draws & make villian with high cards fold

i was thinking of checking river once get called

UTG1 is a conservative likes playing pairs

MP1 is a tight aggr. player who 3 bets turn with hands ( 2 pair + ) & once he 3 bet on a wet board i put myself behind with my top pair against his set or flush & folded

was my action correct or i miss played the pot?

Don't fold. Could easily be a worse 9 or 2p against which you have enough outs. You also said he's aggressive which can expand his range quite a bit. Call and reevaluate river. It's also a limped pot in which your hand is kind of underrepresented (btw, it's not 3-bet as the title of the thread says).

That's about as ugly a turn as you can see on that board. I don't blame you for folding. If he showed up with 98 with a then take a note that he can make isolation plays multiway on the turn. Just because he has those hands in his range doesn't mean that it's a call for you. You need to estimate a range(which you have done, but you didn't include any bluffs) and plug it into an equity calculator to find a good answer.

I'd be tempted to check raise the flop, but with only 4 players in the pot(2 of which are described as conservative/tight) it would get checked around enough to make me bet out as you did.

Thanks for reply

i think what i have seen so far is that when we come to a stage where we have some outs which we can hit on next street we tend to call according to outs & odds

but we also have to consider does those outs can give us a win if we hit

i had only 4 outs which can improve my hand but that also may not be enough so i thought folding is better option

NH

-grunch-

hai all!

Getting raised on the turn, probably beat (against 2 players), so as played, fine.

I wouldnt complete A9o in SB even though I believe A9o has more equity than required 12,5% to break even against 2 limpers and BB (assuming he checks). That is because I probably would mess up playing OOP post flop to turn that thin gain into a loss.

Also, there is no 3!-bet

I dont think worse 9 is that likely to raise turn.
Against two pair there arent many outs.
Even more so because any diamond on the river is devastating.
He is aggressive, but also tight and since OP seems to have misintepreted 3!-bet its har to understand what situation he was describing (in "read").
You also seem to be ignoring the fact that the pot is 3-way not HU.
It is!
There is nothing to look forward to on the river
4outs~8% equity
7,5 to 1 pot odds:
0,08 x 7,5 + 0,92 x (-1) = 0,6 - 0,92 = -0,32 EV

And thats still being too optimistic about it

Kinda hard to say without much of a read. Useful info would be how does he play a strong draw on the turn? Could he have something like A5 or similar, for instance.
I kind of want to say hands like K9o, Q9o are in his range, too, but just flatting the flop with something like that would be very out of character for a TAG (unless you're completely off in that assumption).

Lacking better information, I think your fold is at worst the tiniest of mistakes (and may indeed be the best play).

My read on MP1 was that he r,c/r turn with 2 pair +

nh

I saw above that you thought he has 2pair+, but I don't see any justification for how you can be feel that hunch is particularly solid. You recall him raising a turn on a wet board and you folded your tp previously; but he didn't have to SD, so we can't be certain you were behind that time. Even if you had seen: it's just one hand.

Thus, your above text implies you do NOT actually have a solid read, particularly with what he'll do with a strong draw.

Edit: But again, void that information I think your fold is probably fine (nh).

In a 6max game, I would be strongly tempted to raise A9o in the SB versus two limpers, although it would depend on what I saw of their stats. If both limpers were, say, typical online 40/15s I would raise in a heartbeat.

I'm not quite as sure about full ring. I'd want some sense that UTG was loose, and with a noticeable PFR in early position, so that their limping range is decapitated (our hand fares much better versus decapitated ranges than ranges that include big aces).

But we've got lots more than 12.5% equity, even if UTG is a tight-passive who never open-raises. Raising might be wrong, but folding is even more wrong.

I don't I fold yet. I think a MP is raising flush draws at least some percentage of the time on the flop. We could still have the best hand and the pot is getting big.

This is a mistake. You have a pretty easy value bet on blank rivers. I would even value bet non-diamond Js, Qs, & Ks rivers.

Folding A9o preflop is a pretty large mistake. Raising preflop is probably ok, but I think calling might be better. If your worried about getting out played postflop, you shouldn't be playing at this limit. We're in these games because we think we can out play our opponents, not the other way around.

I dont think i can put him on hands he is raising which i beat + my outs get discounted because of the board & his action on turn

Ok let say villian is raising with strong draw ( less than 10% )

is it a +ive EV on a long term to call on a such wet board with a raise on turn in a 3 way pot with just top pair of 9?