Originally Posted by AlanBostick
It is against the relative unknowns that we want to take the least exploitable lines. Everything changes when we have a sense of what a villain's donkbets mean. Do they donk with any piece of the flop? Do they donk with middle pair but k/r top pair or better? Are their donks polarized between strong hands and draws? If we know, we will play the hand differently.
My point was that against a random unknown who is donking a flop, I don't really care if my value/peeling ranges are balanced on a flop like this. Even against a player who I know is good, I'll have plenty of value hands that are calling this flop that I don't need to call with a monster like this.
So you're making this play for information? I don't think it's particularly difficult to guess what hands villain donked with if he folds at some point during the hand. If he folds the turn, likely it was a pure bluff or something like middle pair. If he folds the river, looks like a diamond draw. Either way I doubt the information you gain is worth the equity you're giving up by playing it passively, but I could be wrong on that.
You mentioned you'd call the flop and raise this safe turn.... are there any turn cards you're not raising here? I'm guessing a jack, anything else?