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Originally Posted by Rooksx
These sorta spots make me uncomfortable with the never 3-bet strategy. I'm a clear favourite against his preflop range. However, a lot of those hands I beat are going to fold if I c-r on a flop this dry.
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Rooksx, you've pointed out the missing piece in Montrealcorp's advice. To be profitable, you need him to call worse. Put the villain on a range PF, then remove all the snap folds. With the remaining hands, how do you do.
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
c/r ure ahead easy , u have at least 60% equity unless is very tight.
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We're ahead the minute the villain cbets. The issue is that this is a great flop to bluff. Because it is so good to bluff, it is harder to value raise. If the villain can read the texture and know you're bluffing, then he could get suspicious with A highs and maybe even a good Q high. Still, we cost ourselves all of the villains barrels by blasting him off the flop. In a 6m game, there is value in letting the villain barrel off. Do we have so much value we miss out on value ranges? How likely is he to blast off all 3 barrels? We need to consider this stuff before we just look at equity vs. PF range and fire.
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Originally Posted by VDownSwingV
just 3 bet wider imho
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Right, wrong, or indifferent, the "never 3 bet HU OOP" strategy has more going for it than to be dismissed with quick statements like this. Three betting wide favors the in position player, he likes playing big pots IP. You're partitioning your range, so unless you're really 3 betting a ton, you're giving him info that he can use. You could say
three bet with some balance, but just doing it wide doesn't help. If you do it wide enough, there are flops you can't hit TP after having not three bet.
It is fine to say that your opponents are idiots and can't hand read. Sadly, as the games get tougher, more and more people you face can read hands. Even if your eventual destination isn't no 3 betting, everyone should try it -- you learn a lot in these tough spots. How do I play a mid-strong hand OOP w/o initiative vs. a wide range? Skilled players know how to do this. Learn the spot, what to consider, etc. There are times when you want to leave your opponent wide to maximize profit and there are times you don't, get your feet wet.
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BTW, just read and re-read Bellatrix's post. There's a lot going on in there. She's one of the best SH players who posts in these parts.