1. I seat select all the time at the tables I'm playing. If I get seated to the right of a known fish I will decline to sit in the seat and get right back on the waiting list. In terms of table selecting I sort my tables by players/flop and try to stay near the looser tables but if I get seated at a tight table I just adjust to the players around me.

2. I would need to have 3-4 players coldcall ahead of me to warrant a coldcall on the button. Normally one does not see that at the stakes I play. I have seen coldcalls at the 10/20 games by good players but those are always a noticeable range.


3. I'm afraid I don't understand your question.

For SB 3 betting ranges, the method in WITHG is very good. Look the opening range of your opponents. Find hands that have good equity against those ranges. You're going to be out of position for the rest of the hand, so consider that. Also, if the big blind is very loose or very aggressive, consider that. Consider your skill relative to the raiser; does he play well in position post flop? Finally, will the raiser become fit/fold if you 3 bet him? They do a very nice job in the book laying out how they came up with their ranges for pre-flop actions.

Your English is great. You could also post in German and trust some of our European posters to help out. There are a lot of German speakers on the forum, imo.

THANKS 4 THIS!


THANKS!

I was just wondering if their is something like a "magic number" for this, but while asking this question - i allready felt there will be no easy answer to this.
It`s just to player/situation dependend, i guess. DougL came up with what i was looking for .... i´ll re-read that section in WITHG and work on this step by step...

As for the German forum - right, i could write/read more, but they are more about NL and other stuff than FL - so i like it here...
....but in the near future i will have a closer look at those guys

Again - Thank you very much! Good luck at the tables and have a nice sunday!

I was actually talking about German speakers on this forum. There are several. Like you, their English is so good, you wouldn't know it by reading their posts.

Dragon probably knows German seeing as he speaks a gazillion languages.

Ahh .. ok ... DANKE

While I'd prefer the unknown fish on my right, I'm not sure why this is a problem. Care to elaborate? From the blind stealing POV, tight blinds are great. 2nd best would be a very loose blind who then is horrible post flop.

Quoting JoeTall, "Don't fear the callers. Be afraid of the betters and the raisers." Having a calling station behind isn't a disaster, though you probably have to adjust ranges.

Nice post. I do think Tyler and Doug bring up some good points, however. When you're calling the ATS, how many Aces are in your range that you're not 3! PF? I think c/r the Ace boards is a recipe for getting pwnd against a good chunk of opponents. And c/r-barreling with 9 high has it's own problems as well. Even the 2nd type of player can WA/WB* his weak/middling Aces (in addition to his TT-KK).

*Not technically WA/WB because you're PF 3! almost all the better Aces, but letting you value-pwn yourself knowing he's usually way ahead, but that you'll fold if he raises and barrel if he calls.

let me reiterate, these are suggested lines against specific opponents. These are not standard lines. While ABC poker is oftentimes optimal, it is not ALWAYS optimal. As for sitting next to a calling station, I like to have my seat be as optimal as possible. One of the big things I don't see mentioned is just check/folding bluffs on the river to bad, straightforward players. For example, when A8o just hasn't gotten there and you know villain is going to play straightforward on the river. Pygmyhero talks about this in one of the middle episodes of "Passing the Torch".

In terms of aces in my range that I'm not 3betting preflop, it's somewhat player and line dependant. Not 3betting AK is just burning value. AQ also comes into the 3bet category. AJ/AT is again dependent. I've been known to 3bet suited A down to A8. Offsuit aces I probably stop 3betting all the way at AT again range dependent.

Nerdking great post. I think this is a good for discussions

Few questions.

1. In first example what range do u put the players on when they open on btn. With that range what of hands range do you think will fold to your c.r on flop containing an ace.

2. Against aggressive players what % do u think will re-bluff on the turn.


3. Do u think it worth to risk 2 Big bet most of the time to win 3.5 Big bet on a pure bluff.

4. If you say that you will 3 bet most of the time pre flop on the BB with strong Ax. There not a lot of combo of good hands for you to be C.r the flop with when there an ace right?

Also I think if you flat 100% of your range pf to a steal on the BB your C.R pure bluff would succeed more.

Question re: hand 4

You mention that villain 3 can recognize that the Q is a bad card for us and will likely bluff. How much of a difference in profit do you expect with a b/c line vs c/c to induce? Put another way, do you think we get bluffraised often enough on the river vs this opponent to lead, or will we make more with a check to get him to take shots with hands he otherwise wouldn't?

i think i really need to have a good read of this thread before i can reply but in the meantime this bump will have to do.

Nice post nerdking. I am jealous of this article, not jealous that I didn't write it because I couldn't have, jealous because I would have liked to have it as an original Digest article. Oh well maybe next time

nerdking this is a good post.

i'm going to respond to one hand at a time.

first, though, just to clarify - these are all vs button raises, correct?

second thing - i think it should be emphasized (esp to noobs) that these types of plays will be very bad/spewy against a lot of players at the lower limits. i think the fundamentals are more important to master first. that said once the fundamentals are mastered these types of things are good to learn. sort of like learning how to dribble with one hand before going between the legs.


re: flop of A62 vs tag-nit.

if you CR this flop with 97o (a fine play vs a steal range imo) and he calls i think you can c/f the turn UI. these guys arent calling your CR with KQ. they either have a big Ace and are going to raise your turn bet, or have some PP that they arent folding. id just give up.


vs a LAGTAG

again i wouldnt immediately say a flop CR is bad. after all you are near the bottom of your range here with little to no SD value. against this opponent, however, i would be more apt to fire the turn after CRing the flop, and then firing the river UI. it depends on image considerations. LAGTAGs dont like to give up on the flop to one bet with much of anything.

i also think just c/fing here is a fine option. if you calldown here with king high i wouldnt worry about being run over just becaues you fold one of worst hands you can have in this spot (equity-wise).

I sort of like what Don Juan was saying about play from the BB when faced with a button raise. I like just calling with most hands even if I feel I'm likely ahead, since I get an automatic c/r if I want to take it and save a bet if I don't like the flop. But, I would be inclined to 3-bet a KQ since it's easier to represent an A, when you 3 bet pre. It's nice to hear some different ideas/ viewpoints. GL at the tables