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bellatrix · 08-03-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieHovito

because a low wet board should miss his perceived range(lots of broadway) while crushing our defending but not 3! range (like 98o)

villain is button, not UTG, he doesn't necessarily have broadways. He might just as well have our hand.
Also, even if he did ONLY raise broadways, lol at folding out overcards!

**DougL** · 08-03-2009, 11:59 PM

There are some villain's who fold on a mono board if they don't have a FD. You're winning this pot about 1/2 the time vs. those villains. I agree that low wet boards are the suck for bluffing. Dry boards with a single big card are hard to hit, and they are great for bluffing. Pair the broadway card, make the board rainbow, and make the other card a 2 or 3? That is a rocking board against a non-thinking opponent. You'll never fold a decent HUHU player who has 2 OC to 2nd pair, though.

ripcurlvb · 08-04-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

AKQ rainbow?

A72 rainbow?

KK3 rainbow?

KK3 two tone?

654 mono (same suit)?

223 rainbow?

A98 rainbow?

999 rainbow?

Hi everybody. I am new to the forums, and somewhat new to poker. So I will try to answer this.

At my stakes(.05-.10 limit), I would probably always fold this hand preflop. One of my problems is playing too many hands.

However, the only hands I would check-raise are the 654, because of the straight draw and the potential for a flush draw. However, I would be inclined to fold if he raised back. On the A98, I would also check-raise. I don't see him playing cards that would give him a strong straight draw. And the 999 board, I would definitely check-raise. He has the hope of a full house, and I would try to extract as much money as possible.

Please let me know if any of my logic is wrong, as I am doing everything to learn the game. Thanks for the help, and I hope to see you all around.

Tirppa · 08-04-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ripcurlvb

At my stakes(.05-.10 limit), I would probably always fold this hand preflop. One of my problems is playing too many hands.

You should definetly call 98 against button raise.

themuppets · 08-04-2009, 10:18 PM

Bump for verified coaching.

**BigBadBabar** · 08-04-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by themuppets

Bump for verified coaching.

absolutely agree.

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**BigBadBabar** · 08-04-2009, 10:31 PM

i think this one was pretty useful for getting an idea of how rarely a lot of you guys go on the attack. i think it's a big deal to realize that (without going bananas and trying to win every pot) your opponents don't always have it.

remember all those times you raise pf and miss the flop? well, it happens to your opponents too

for me, the ace high and paired ones i only attack depending on my opponent. lots of folks at aggro games or mid/high stakes or whatever are aware that these are good boards to attack and so consequently they don't fold much on them. it becomes too expensive or not really doable to 3barrel bluff here. if my opp is foldy i'll go for it.

the 654 mono i'd attack some of the time depending on opponent, again looking at fit or foldy or showdown tendencies

the 332 i rarely attack; no one folds pairs or high card ace or even king too often

the last two i always crfastplay

jtoleric · 08-05-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

sup guys, final installment imo

for both fullrang and shorthanded peeps.

AT YOUR STAKES

let's talk BLIND VS BLIND

you are in the big blind. villain is on the button. he is a fairly average opponent: let's pick some arbitrary stats. he steals around 40% and goes to showdown 35%. he plays pretty straightforward postflop, beats the stakes but isn't gonna do a lot of stupid or fancy stuff postflop. ABC TAG basically. if it makes you feel better let's say he's 26/18 if 6m and 17/12 if fr.

okay so he raises button. you defend in bb with 98o.

THE QUESTION IS, how often (give me percentages of the time) are you checkraising the following flops? assume he will always cbet when checked to, and that we will always check to him. what i mean is, how often do you currently do it? if you don't do it, or do it 5%, then say that. don't say 37% cuz you wanna say random stuff

AKQ rainbow?

A72 rainbow?

KK3 rainbow?

KK3 two tone?

654 mono (same suit)?

223 rainbow?

A98 rainbow?

999 rainbow?

okay so which boards do you do what on? and why? how do we feel about flop textures? how do we feel about our opponent's tendencies? EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

gogogo

AKQ - 0%
A72 - 0%
KK3 - 0%
KK3 - 0%
654 - 0%
223 - 0%
A98 - 10% i will normally just bet this hand
999 - 25% i will usually check/call this hand since i can't lose

**DougL** · 08-05-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jtoleric

AKQ - 0%
A72 - 0%
KK3 - 0%
KK3 - 0%
654 - 0%
223 - 0%
A98 - 10% i will normally just bet this hand
999 - 25% i will usually check/call this hand since i can't lose

These answers are close to the popular consensus. You have some big holes in your HU play. Look at our OP's notes on hands, and think about how he is different than you in these spots. BBB is a very good HU player, so if you disagree with him...

VUcats · 08-05-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jtoleric

AKQ - 0%
A72 - 0%
KK3 - 0%
KK3 - 0%
654 - 0%
223 - 0%
A98 - 10% i will normally just bet this hand
999 - 25% i will usually check/call this hand since i can't lose

Doug pointed it out above, but this is a serious serious leak in your game. That said, since you play FR the situation probably doesn't come up as often as it does in 6max or (obviously) HUHU so it's sort of understandable why some guys don't have as much experience with playing in HU pots.

merryber · 08-07-2009, 11:38 AM

so on A72 flop, when we c/r flop we hope he folds flop, or our c-bet turn?
how do u continue once he called flop - b/f turn, c/f river?
is this like 80% of the time your action?

VUcats · 08-07-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by merryber

so on A72 flop, when we c/r flop we hope he folds flop, or our c-bet turn?
how do u continue once he called flop - b/f turn, c/f river?
is this like 80% of the time your action?

Yeah. The other 20% of the time would be c/f turn.

merryber · 08-07-2009, 12:49 PM

OK - i was thinking (had a walk with the baby, and told her some bad beats stories), don't u rather c/r flop like Q72, J72 (with the inside str8 draw here) that are less likely to hit villain? isn't an A and K are more likely in his range (and more combos) than these flops?
also - do u think the same goes for K72 flops?
i get that the A is scary, but do u also c/r your Ax hands at these spots - or do u c/c. i mean i will c/r AT here, but c/c A2+. your thoughts?

**DougL** · 08-07-2009, 01:05 PM

The A high board is terrifying to a villain w/o an A. He's drawing to running 2 pair if you have the hand you're representing. He's calling with no outs if he's wrong. Even a K-high board gives a guy with an A a chance to think he can bluff catch + be drawing live.

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i get that the A is scary, but do u also c/r your Ax hands at these spots - or do u c/c. i mean i will c/r AT here, but c/c A2+. your thoughts?

You're asking about balancing here. Against bad opponents, you can forget balance, raise you big A's for value (or wait for the turn), and play WA/WB with your smaller ones. Against a better opponent, you have to consider how you play your range here so you don't end up playing backwards.

About 10k hands of HUHU poker would really clear up these questions in your mind. I think I'd usually start off a match by attacking a number of the Axx boards to see how my opponent reacts (this ignoring whether or not I have anything). A lot of people are foldy on these boards, so I'd pound this board a high % until he catches on. Then I'd hope he'd overadjust and try to value-town him on the other side. You start a lot of HUHU play asking "would this opponent just let me run him over?"

non-self-weighter · 08-09-2009, 03:28 PM

AKQ rainbow?
100% c/f

A72 rainbow?
maybe 50/50 c/f, c/c

KK3 rainbow?
Maybe 5% donk, especially against robots. c/c a lot here.

KK3 two tone?
See above.

654 mono (same suit)?
Always c/r

223 rainbow?
c/c probably 80% and c/r the rest.

A98 rainbow?
always c/r

999 rainbow?
always c/r