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Old 08-04-2012, 01:47 PM   #1
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2 Problem Hands - $0.25/$0.50

Hand 1

No reads on villain except he's posted a big blind early.

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CO posts a big blind (1 SB)

Pre Flop: (2.4 SB) Hero is MP2 with T K
4 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 3 folds

Flop: (5.4 SB) T A 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

Turn: (3.7 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

River: (5.7 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero ????

Is it too cautious to give up here. I'm assuming he hasn't got an Ace as they probably would have raised flop although a weak Ace may only have called. If he's calling down with a 6 he's now made trips. Can I bet here and get enough weaker 10s to call? If he raises my river bet am I throwing the hand away?

Hand 2

Villain is 38/24/0/1.4 after 56 hands. I'm probably viewed as a nit here as I was pretty card dead this session. 2 of the pots I have played have been heads up with him where I've defended my blind, check raised flop, bet turn and river and got river folds both times

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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BB with T J
7 folds, BTN raises, 1 fold, Hero calls

Flop: (4.4 SB) T 8 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN calls

Turn: (4.2 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero ????

Do I call down from here or given the history is he just trying to make a stand with a bluff?
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:36 PM   #2
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Re: 2 Problem Hands - $0.25/$0.50

Hand 1 I like a c/c here. You now chop with all 10's, and so betting doesn't accomplish anything. You're losing to 6x, and so betting is bad.

On the other hand, he may have a lot of gutshots and flush draws that have now missed. Checking gives him a chance to bluff with those hands that he'd fold if bet into. Against a good player this is sort of transparent, but you don't have any reads other than that he posted early and now cold called this hand. Doesn't scream expert to me.

Hand 2 I'm calling down from this point. If I'm in BTN's shoes I think Jx is good here a ton, and even something like Ac8x isn't a terrible play to put in a raise here since he can check behind a non-club river but get the extra bet if he binks a flush. 3betting doesn't seem great though since we don't really want to fold to a cap with ~11BB in the pot and 4 clean outs to beat a flush.

I am wondering, though, why you decided to ask whether you call down OR if he's bluffing. Would you consider doing something other than calling down if you knew 100% that he was bluffing here?
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:20 PM   #3
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Re: 2 Problem Hands - $0.25/$0.50

Hand 1: I don't think it really matter what you do, to be heonst.

Hand 2: just call down unless you improve.
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Old 08-04-2012, 06:31 PM   #4
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Re: 2 Problem Hands - $0.25/$0.50

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Hand 1 I like a c/c here. You now chop with all 10's, and so betting doesn't accomplish anything. You're losing to 6x, and so betting is bad.

On the other hand, he may have a lot of gutshots and flush draws that have now missed. Checking gives him a chance to bluff with those hands that he'd fold if bet into. Against a good player this is sort of transparent, but you don't have any reads other than that he posted early and now cold called this hand. Doesn't scream expert to me.
agree with c/c, but we're not chopping with Tx's and if anything I think we're most likely only losing to Ax with weak kicker - I'd c/c to try to induce/bluff catch a weaker Tx or a missed draw

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Hand 2 I'm calling down from this point. If I'm in BTN's shoes I think Jx is good here a ton, and even something like Ac8x isn't a terrible play to put in a raise here since he can check behind a non-club river but get the extra bet if he binks a flush. 3betting doesn't seem great though since we don't really want to fold to a cap with ~11BB in the pot and 4 clean outs to beat a flush.

I am wondering, though, why you decided to ask whether you call down OR if he's bluffing. Would you consider doing something other than calling down if you knew 100% that he was bluffing here?
Agree with all this
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Old 08-04-2012, 06:45 PM   #5
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We have TT66A and chop with any ten.

As far as what to do, I agree with Schupick.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:12 PM   #6
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Great reply catface very detailed and makes a lot of sense.
Just curious about the last comment. Surely if i knew for certain he was on a bluff i would raise rather call down.
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Great reply catface very detailed and makes a lot of sense.
Just curious about the last comment. Surely if i knew for certain he was on a bluff i would raise rather call down.
Why?
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Great reply catface very detailed and makes a lot of sense.
Just curious about the last comment. Surely if i knew for certain he was on a bluff i would raise rather call down.
Let him bluff if you are sure he will fire the river. You gain one extra bet.
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We have TT66A and chop with any ten.
oops - wacky tabacky blending the two hands together - my bad

catface is spot on - np
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:30 AM   #10
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Re: 2 Problem Hands - $0.25/$0.50

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Hand 1
Against people who has some aggro tendencies I'd be inclined to c/c and let them bluff but vs passives I'd bet to get value from smaller PPs and if they are really SD bound KJ or something smilar now that the board is paired. Basic concept is that if you think he will call with more hands than he bets with when checked to then bet.

VS an unknown I'd be inclined to take the line that lets me see a SD so in this particular hand I'd c/c

Hand 2
I call down because he can easily do this with a good J or overpair.
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