sup guys, time for some hot 1/2 6m action!

honky donk, as first prize winner, has looked over the video i made and asked lots of questions.

i'm gonna post his questions and then my answers to them. i am also gonna post the video link.

please download the video and then post any questions or comments! let's get it going imo.

video link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KFWOET0V

edit: please include timestamp when discussing hands. telling me 14:43 left table KQo is way more useful than saying KQo.

edit2: i suggest watching vid without having read previous comments, but that's up to you.

HONKY DONK ASKS:

Table Tee Pee

Th, Qc You OR in MP. This isn’t much off from where I’d get it in, but I need a reason to do so. What’s yours? Called BTN’s 3!, then c/c a Q65 flop, c/r’d a blank turn. Why not c/r flop? Waiting for the turn standard?

Qc, As BTN raises your BB, limited stats, BTN tightish, would you 3! Another vil. type? If so explain.


8:22 Jc, As BTN overcalls an UTG raise. Is this close at all? Vil. Seems loosish. I can make a case for dumping but don’t like it. Why fold, I mean what’s missing that you want to 3!???


11:13 66 92582 board, lots of action, were you really thinking of folding for 1 on the riv. Here? Don’t think I could, even to this vil.. Is this a leak for me?

13:35 KJs Can’t call, Raise or fold,imo. What tipped it to a fold?

18:30 99 Kc,6s,6c,8s,5c 5c hits ST8 & F/D’s. 9’s aren’t that strong here, imo. Why bet here? F/E? What are we beating that calls? Is it we’re B/F > C/C?

25:33 9c, Th BTN raises Kd, 9d,Qh 5.5:1 is not enuff if we’re behind… are you sure we are? A 3! Can let us see the river (some portion of the time) I 3! This fairly often . Your thoughts?


26:54 Qh, Jd K27d flop, you C/R. I usually just lead out. Pro’s & con’s of either play?

28:46 Kc, 4h J9T mono flop. You get C/R’d and insta fold. Any thought of calling? (Why not?) I see peoples bluff these flops regularly. Not the right Vil? Pot too small?? Are we just asking to get pwned by a rando h? Explain.


36:44 7h, 8d OTB you raise/steal? Read/stats on blinds? Discuss, I mean its not far off for me, sooted or T9o… I go! 78o seems a little weak. The c-bet is a must! What was your plan for this hand? Are you dumping it if vil. Gets frisky?

37:13 33 You fold in MP. What pp’s do you raise here? I think with this line up I’d raise. 4’s are my default but I like this spot.

38:41 Ac, 3d You O/R in SB, c-bet flop-standard. You bet turn - do you think Ahigh is good? Looking to fold a small pair? Your thinking please. You check on the riv (I know the 3 doesn’t help) are you tryin to induce? Why not bet fold?

40:33 A2o Was ya thinking of folding? It’s close enuff for me to see a flop.


Table Duran

6:00 Get a hand will ya?!

6:55 A8o I think at this table I O/R. It’s close but table seems tightish, we haven’t played a hand yet, we’re UTG, but effectively it’s MP. I think Raise!

9:51 AJo 33K flop, you call a donk bet. I wonder ‘bout a raise to fold out SB and gain the lead. Spew??


14:45 Nice bet/bluff, imo Wat are your parameters here? Discuss why here/now?


15:56 That sux, but well played.

18:02 A3o BTN limps, you raise, I like this and often 3! A raiser to fold BB (dead $) I mostly barrel unless I can find a reason not to. Please discuss.

29:57 K8s 999 flop, SB (cc’d pre) donks. Why not spank it wit a 3! This reps a pp, imo. We did OR after all. I just don’t like letting him barrel and calling him down- you thoughts? Sure we can pop it if we improve, I guess I just like to smack donkers, idk.

32:11 AK 2K957 board. What are these guys calling wit here then folding for 1 on the riv? Hand reading?? It seems to me that the draws are slim at best. Do you think that your bet lets them know your good???

32:36 Kqo Raise & OC, you call in SB. This always troubles me. Hard to choose which button to mash, they all seem about the same. Why did you do it this way here? Altunitives plays/ lines your thoughts please.

33:30 65s I think this is a little to light to be raisin here. Btw, It looks like snakes26 thinks you’re a fish ( bum huntin ya?) which makes this even more of a fold. Yout thoughts?

35:04 24o LOL you folded the nuts. Wit 2 limpers, wat kind of hands do you start to complete from SB? 3 limpers, 4??? High card strength, soooted, con’s? what???

40:45 A9o I think this hand shows how playin lagish can pay off. Vil. Doesn’t think believe you need much of a hand to 3! On this board, how good can his 7’s be???

42:28 Really?!? Is this guy tilting or just bad?

43:04 ATo I see how we got here but are we ever good on the river. I think I fold even in a $20 pot here and prolly fold that turn.

the BB seemed bad already and i wanted to play the pot with him. you can justify tons of looser-ish opens pf when there is someone in the blinds you really want to get at.

i tend often to wait for the turn on such a dry board because there aren't many draws on this flop, so if i c/r it looks like a pair often and if he has a nonpair hand he'll often shut down, or even an underpair to the queen. also, people tend to 2-barrel quite often in 3bet pots, so i can get him to put in a big bet pretty badly on brick turns quite often with a hand like AJ. also, people are loath to 3bet overpairs on the turn, so often i don't get punished as much even when i am behind and take this line

i tend not to 3bet/cap hu oop pf in these spots ever, especially vs unknowns or tags or regs. sometimes vs giant fish i will 3bet or cap heads up out of position.

my plan is to 3bet for sure but i timed out due to note-taking on other table

vs 2 loose players i feel i have value in a pf3bet.

not a leak at all, and i end up calling too. i just hovered my mouse around for a while to indicate my unhappiness with the river situation. it just seemed based on btn's line and then riv bet timing tell that he's quite strong ie overpair and in that case i'm basically never winning. if he'd checked the turn or the river then i have a chance vs busted overs or some kind of overs+flushdraw.

it's fine to pay off in big pots in lhe and i do that as well. don't make hero folds. you'll see i didn't make many hero folds in this video either, cuz i want to see what everyone has for everyone's (including my own) benefit!

i think i could consider a cap with more reads on the players especially if they both turn out to be loose aggressive, more importantly the button, but i am not sure i have enough info to make that judgment. without any info, usually a 3bet of an utg open is pretty strong at these stakes, and my hand, while probably close to okay on a stove, isn't looking super great here in my experience. i did have limited info that utg hadn't been aggressive so far.

if it came co open, btn 3bet, i would have capped. same if btn open sb 3bet

ib4 BBB post count reaches 20,000

Does the video have audio? If so I don't think its working

no, it's a value bet and not a bluff. at higher stakes i would expect to get looked up by some ace high combos here and maybe 77 in such a huge pot. i think it will hopefully be useful/illustrative to see some of my laggyspew or valuecutting and how plays can work at one stake and not quite as well at another because of opponents' ranges or tendencies.

i think my flop and turn line is sensible and then when i get to the river i just sort of think OMG MUST VALUEBET. you make a good point that perhaps a check back is best here.

i don't really 3bet out of position and then check the next street heads up really at all. if i'm 3betting it's with the intention that i have a value hand that i'm gonna bet down. i think checkcalling down here is very reasonable vs a shortstack who could easily be spazzing out with random draws of which there are tons on this board.

i guess i made the determination that he'd been kinda passive so far and also i will have to face a full bet on every street into what's a very tiny pot so far, with no implied odds cuz of his stack size. so i decided to fold. i think checkcalling all streets, or betcalling flop and checkcalling down most turn/river combos, is perfectly reasonable. shorties do lots of lol things.

MY HUD:

top line is vpip, pfr, 3bet%, wtsd, w$sd

bottom line is aggression factor, aggression frequency, steal%, fold bb to steal, and # hands

these days people almost always cbet heads up. so in heads up pots i check to the preflop raiser 100% of the time. i don't like donkbets for a lot of reasons, which could turn into a big discussion of its own. in short, i think it's harder to balance a donking range (as opposed to check and see, with c/c and c/r and c/f options) which means you give out info to your opponents. it also stops them from cbetting any two cards which increases the pot size that we can then fight for. ie when we donk and he folds, he's often folding something he would have cbet (bluffed) at, so we are costing ourselves money.

Oops, I missed the PFR. I don't much care for donkin either.

i think this is closer than i thought it was at the time. at the time i just saw a loose passive opponent. they checkraise rarely. and then i figured i could be drawing really poorly, ie flush outs no good, just a gut and overcard and pair outs could be no good. pot also small. but i think everything combined makes it a lot better for me than i first assumed at the beginning.

i do think my pf open is too loose given the guys in the blinds, and is a clear mistake which hopefully could have dodged some of these problems.

yea this is the very bottom of my offsuit range vs unknowns for otb steals. i steal a lot and we can probably have a whole discussion on that. i just like making my thin plays in position instead of out of position which i think is something a lot of folks don't think about enough.

yes, plan is bet/fold flop