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04-26-2016 , 05:00 PM
Hi all,

Sorry if this post seems a bit vague but I've just started learning fixed limit and ran into this hand which I've been wanting to discuss with someone. After a little thought I've decided to post the hand in its entirety.

I was wondering what your thoughts are on my decision to bet out on the flop and how you would handle each street after villain raises my bet.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.04 Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T K
    UTG calls, 7 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

    Flop: (3 SB) 6 8 K (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, SB folds, Hero calls

    Turn: (3.5 BB) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls

    River: (5.5 BB) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls

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    04-26-2016 , 05:27 PM
    It doesn't look terrible or great to me as posted...but maybe if you posted your reads on UTG it would clarify things a bit. What do you think UTG's range is limping PF then raising the flop? How is UTG reacting to your PF check? It is helpful to know what you are thinking and what you think UTG is thinking.

    On the face of it, I doubt UTG is playing AK. I guess he could be playing any suited K or maybe KQo if he is loose and passive but that isn't a read, just a guess. What do you think his range is and why? He could be playing Ax of diamonds also, depending on his style. I think maybe pushing him for a half bet by reraising the flop might have told you more about where he was. idk

    Last edited by Bona; 04-26-2016 at 05:30 PM. Reason: sp
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    04-28-2016 , 02:19 AM
    folding here is an exploitive move. But you cant exploit an unknown
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    04-28-2016 , 07:23 AM
    I'd raise preflop.
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    04-28-2016 , 12:02 PM
    imsuchadegen, I'd start by trying to put UTG on a limping range. Then I'd consider what hands he is raising your flop bet. I'm fine with your chosen line, but it is good for you to consider hand ranges. Is he ever limping betting K's?
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    04-28-2016 , 12:52 PM
    I think this line works fine.

    Sarge
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    04-28-2016 , 04:30 PM
    This is fine. Another option is checking to raise and calling down vs a three bet.

    Given your flop line, folding at any point would be absurd IMO.
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    04-30-2016 , 09:39 PM
    Imo, you're probably beat a lot of the time, but it's not a hand you can fold because people do stupid stuff so you played it fine.

    Reads on utg are helpful (even if it is only "crazy" or "decent") but I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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    05-07-2016 , 11:34 PM
    i think you gotta call it being limit and all but from a no limit guy it sounded like you were in pretty bad shape.
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    05-14-2016 , 12:34 AM
    i like it. raising preflop would be a serious error.
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    05-14-2016 , 07:55 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4
    raising preflop would be a serious error.
    Maybe in no limit it would, but I gotta disagree here.

    I did a stove. I gave the first limper an uncapped 36.29% range, and I gave the small blind an uncapped 88.24% range. KTo has 34.97% equity, which is enough to raise. If we start taking out raising hands from the limper's range and the small blind's range, the equity of KTo will only go up.
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    05-16-2016 , 12:02 PM
    Raising preflop really depends on what the limper's range is. In a vacuum, you have more than your share of equity and there is value if the SB ever folds to the raise.
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    05-21-2016 , 01:17 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
    Raising preflop really depends on what the limper's range is. In a vacuum, you have more than your share of equity and there is value if the SB ever folds to the raise.
    I would love to meet the SB that folds here.
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    05-21-2016 , 05:06 PM
    Raise prelop

    As played, call down. Folding is awful.

    Don't look at results - i guess you lost hence why you posted the hand
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