Just looked it up; those are 1/2 lb patties. If the meat is standard 80/20 and is pan-fried, which I assume it is, that's about 2200 calories from the ground beef. 10k calories still seems way high.

They're .5lb patties so it's 2 lbs of meat.

They fry the burgers, bacon, and bread in lard.

I would hope a place that calls itself the heart attack grill is using something more than 80/20!

wait what

I burn more than I take in bro, high resting metabolism

Me working out tends to coincide with eating even more and/or taking protein as well

i have a friend who can eat as much as he wants and not gain weight, but he also has crohn's disease

guilty as charged. Also eat a quart of ice cream in one sitting. Many other things but ill stop here as to say its not hard to eat massive amount of calories without really trying. Esp if you eat junk food as it fills you up less compared to fatty real food.

Fatty experts,

I've often heard it said that 'breakfast is the most important meal' and that it actually helps you lose weight by speeding up your metabolism.

Confirm/deny?

AFAIK - yes, having constant blood sugar levels will keep your metabolism higher. But it's not a giant amount. Similarly, people will recommend lots of small meals for the same reason. Breakfast you have been the longest without food, so that seems fairly important to eat then.

I lost the most weight when I went to a 1 meal a day plan, but I might have done better if I ate the same calories spread out more.

(yeah it's broscience)

No, it doesn't really matter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting

34,

1) Straight calories in/out with no other factors taken into consideration is far, far closer to correct than ridiculous crap like 200+ lb guys consuming 1600 calories a day and magically turning that into almost a lb a day weight gain.

2) Shoe scam guy could just say "Zappos" in SF and rake in the dough!

Posting itt to reduce the weight to poster ratio. Carry on fatties.

He's also in his mid-20's. Know who else was in his mid-20's, weighed 200 lbs, ate far fewer than 8000 calories per day, and exercised a lot?



But I couldn't possibly have a point, I'm just trolling.

Sorry, fellas, I just get so frustrated when people are so dug in with their beliefs, that they refuse to give any credit to evidence of the contrary, no matter how compelling it is. When someone presents evidence to me that runs contrary to my opinion on something, I'm not saying I blindly accept it on its face, but at least I'll CONSIDER IT!

I'm long past trying to justify my fatness to you guys. But what keeps me from walking away is the stunning lapse in logic I see in the discussion. We all found 2+2 because we became disciples of Sklansky and Malmuth, two guys who wouldn't tie their shoes unless there was a logical reason to do so. Their every decision, in poker and life, is guided strictly by logic, and nothing burns them up more than logic-defying nonsense.

No one in the thread yet has addressed my family history. My mother's parents had two kids, 7 grandkids, 8 great-grandkids, 19 total, 5 super-fatties in there (there are three other great-grandkids I didn't count, as I haven't seen them since they were babies and couldn't tell you what they look like now, but even if I grant you those, we're still at a whopping 5/22).

No one in this thread has told me yet why we all have different reactions to Viagra or Rogaine or any drug, but we should all react the same way to a turkey sandwich with no mayo. "This should be enough to hold you till dinner, fatso, because it's enough for me!" But it's not enough, I'm still starving! "Meh, you're weak! You got no will!" No one suggests the guy who loses his hearing to Viagra is weak.

Some of us are hornier than others. It's not a choice they made, it's WHO THEY ARE. But if they stray to far from the "normal" range, they're outcasts. "Why can't he just keep it in his pants?" Because he's feeling things you don't feel, that's why!

Some of us are smart, and some are dumb. The dumb folks can't help it. They try to keep up with the smart ones, and simply can't. And we tend to look positively on the first group, and negatively on the second, when neither has done anything to merit the distinction, other than just BEING WHO THEY ARE.

Some of us can thrive on five hours of sleep per night, while others get nine and still feel sleep deprived. Most of us are happy with eight hours. The folks in the eight hour group tend to admire the five hour guys, even though they haven't put any effort into achieving anything, it's just how their body works. The eight hour people also tend to scorn the nine hour people who are yawning, and call them lazy. WTF??? Neither the scorned nor the admired have done anything to merit those feelings, but those illogical feelings exist nonetheless.

My family doesn't give me crap about my weight any more, not even my nagging Italian mother, because they know I don't eat Twinkies and HoHo's, they've seen the miles I've ran and the pushups I've done. But they still glorify me for being smart, and needle me for needing more sleep than they do, even though none of those things is within my control.

So if my intelligence, sex drive, sleep requirements, or 100 other things are beyond my control, I posit that you guys are being 100% illogical when you say that my hunger for food IS something I can control. I remain steadfastly convinced that you guys imagine that the hunger YOU feel is how everyone else feels, and I suppose I'm still looking for the words to get that across to you, because it's another thing I've written several times in the thread that nobody wants to address. The closest anyone comes is, "Oh, just stick with it, you get used to it." I've put in the miles, boys, I'm here to tell you that's not the case, and this isn't being written by a guy who threw in the towel after a day or two.

Earlier ITT, I mentioned my 90-pound sister's eating habits: crap food, but very little of it. El D applauded her "portion control", but she's not "controlling" anything!!! She's never walking away from the table hungry, she doesn't define her limits before her first bite. She eats a little, feels satisfied, and stops eating. The level of hunger SHE feels is different than the level of hunger YOU feel. Everyone seems to understand that, but when I say MY level of hunger is different in the opposite direction, logic flies out the window, and everyone tells me I'm wrong to feel that way. If people like my sister exist, then logic dictates there must be people like me on the opposite end of the range--someone, please tell me why that notion is so difficult to accept?

Finally, I'll leave you with this, pics of two guys in the prime of their lives, who didn't get to where they are today without a ton of hard work:



You can't put us in a meat grinder and make us all the same, boys. You've got to take the uglies with the hotties, the short with the tall, the fatties with the skinnies, the crazies with the well-adjusted.

If you're a normal person who needs to drop 10-20 lbs for swimsuit season, you can do that. But beyond that, you are who you are.

"They can do it, so can you!"

Oh yeah? Well my sister weighs about 90--if she can do it, so can you!

"Don't be ridiculous!"

Why is one of those sentences ridiculous, while the other isn't?

that post is as huge as you

before i lol at you for comparing your training regimen to michael phelps', is your argument as to why you're fat because you are genetically predisposed to being fat and there is nothing you can do about it or that you have this insatiable hunger that i cant seem to wrap my head around?

Dude just eat less.

YTF, you really can't be comparing your work outs to Phelps'? Like... seriously?

Would you still be as hungry if, instead of eating a "turkey sandwich with no mayo," you ate a meal with the same amount of calories, but had triple the mass and double the protein? Certain foods curb hunger better than others. Bread isn't one of them.

i'm starting to report these ****ing ******ed fatty fat fat fat posts and you should too, this is a seriously good thread and i don't want it to die

Ytf is safer when he's fat anyway. Do you guys really want him to strangle himself with his own giant underwear?

Holy cow, now you're starting to hear me!

Yes, I'm suggesting genetics are in play, and more importantly, I'm saying that my hunger is different than your hunger.

My mother, sister, and I sit down to dinner. My sister eats half of hers, and pushes away the plate. My mother eats all of hers, and moans that she's full. I polish off mine, and ask if there's more, looking like I just sat down and haven't eaten anything yet.

"Oh, just eat slower, you fat bastard. Or try taking smaller bites. Or chew it 100 times before you swallow. Or drink a lot of water with it..."

Again, don't you think I've already tried all that?

(Yeah, I didn't train like Phelps, but I didn't eat 8000/day, either. But when someone wrote, "But he exercises a lot," my head asploded.)

I don't think anyone doubts you're hungry.

Man, I needed that laugh, thanks.

(I wish this **** didn't upset me so much...)