i thought your defiance of thermodynamics was recent, though? do you have a food log from that time period?

Here is a more "reasonable" day:

Aug 23, 2009

Pickles, 4 spears: 4 calories
2 TBSP Light Kraft Mayo: 100 calories
1 can tuna: 220 calories
1 cup blueberries: 83 calories
6 large leafs lettuce: 13 calories
Kraft light Ranch, 3OZ: 218 calories (and yes i actually measured 3 oz ***)
Salmon, 6OZ: 236 calories

Total: 873

If that is actually all you ate and you didn't season it and you logged everything by weight correctly and you maintained that for that whole month - see a doctor. Seriously.

no


maybe thermodynamics wasnt discovered in 2009, which explains why the math makes no sense

you got me i didnt factor in the salt and pepper, now it all adds up

I think we are overlooking the possibility that yeota has a black hole in his stomach, this could lead to some of his defiance of the laws of thermodynamics.

I was also thinking that I wish we could rewind back to airplane discussion and have ohead show up in this beast. That was always a good time.

yeota, when you say five asparagus spears, were those raw? If I was to have asparagus, butter would be involved in the preparation. is this the case for you? i know this isn't going to be significant, I was just genuinely curious.

obviously I mean butter and oil

no i baked it

i think yeota posting his food log potentially makes this entire derail relevant to the OP

So despite not food logging, you are very confident you only consumed 1600-1800 calories per day? To be clear, this recent food log post is not from the period in which you gained the 25 pounds or is it? I'm a little confused.

that was between december and january of 2009/2010. i stopped logging by then since i ate 3 different meals basically and knew how much they were roughly worth.

which is why i said, it was an estimate. according to you ppl though a person who tracked his food religiously for 6 months does not have the capability of estimating within 4000 calories a day so idk

If you truly believe you are 100% accurate - go see a doctor. I have a friend who was "breaking the laws of thermodynamics" for a while with respect to her diet. They ended up finding a mass in her stomach. The mass may actually end up being the cure for world hunger (it was somehow replacing nutrients or extracting them ultra-efficiently from her food or something ****ed up before making her hurl) and she's now written up in several medical journals. Maybe you have an alien baby like hers!

I am completely serious about my friend. And about you seeing a doctor.

yeota scamming diets

ive had several physicals for various reasons since then

i tracked my food religiously for a year and wouldn't even begin to try to estimate my daily caloric consumption without a food log, scale and detailed nutrition facts from the restaurant. i can only set a floor of "i was a fatass by at least this much" based on my weight gain over a given period of time.

people are naturally bad at remembering everything they eat and judging the caloric value of foods, especially processed foods prepared in a restaurant. "estimating within 4000 calories a day" is some hellofa standard deviation, bro. you might as well create your food log using a dart board.

however, assuming your calculations are 100% accurate, you seriously need to see a doctor ASAP. if you have insurance, there's no downside to starting to get bloodwork and other procedures done to get this checked out.

like i said, ive been to the doctor. and those are accurate. i have 6 months of similar logs.


im not talking about now. after obsessing in 2009 about what i ate and being miserable constantly i dont want to do that again (though gaining 15lbs over my vacation when i still restricted myself was quite a reminder), so im not concerned about it.


the entire reason for this was because i was told its NOT POSSIBLE for me to have gained about 25 lbs in about a month while eating about 16-1800 calories. the math says id need 4500 a day about to do that. i think id know if i had been eating 4k calories a day after eating 800 a day for 6 months. could i have been off on my estimate of 16-1800? could it have been 1800-2000? maybe. was it 4500 every day? no ****ing way.


over this sample the math says i should have lost 15 lbs (using a pure lowest possible base metabolism!). I lost 8. so for someone to say thats impossible when i have experienced it really pissed me off, especially since it is a touchy subject about weight which i have struggled with my whole life.



edit: sorry for derailing the thread. this is what happens when i try to come to the defense of ytf, lol. i have scammed everyone out of a 3 star thread

I feel like i was scammed opening this thread and reading about diets.

its actually all a level. im a 5-9 140 lb asian teenager.

the reason you were miserable on your past diet is because you cut calories far more severely than they need to be cut. that is not a sustainable way to lose weight. it's a protracted crash diet. crash diets have their utility, but they aren't meant for long term use.

one of the reasons people weight cycle is they go on severe diets and when they can't take it anymore they revert to their old habits, rather than properly changing to an overall healthier lifestyle.

i understand your frustration, but the fact of the matter is you either defy the laws of science, or something is wrong with how you assess your daily caloric intake/understand weight gain (such as not accounting for water weight, as someone added below). i know that was the truth for me until i took a hard look at dietary science and what i was actually consuming each day. i was in complete denial.

what i really need is to find a genie- i only need 2 wishes.

1. infinite wealth
2. the ability to eat whatever i want whenever i want and have perfect health

yeota after your vaca you probably gained a lot of water weight. Water weight can lead to up to 15 added lbs on the scale depending on the person.

In apology to the thread for contributing to the derail, I offer the following scam story:

In high school, I had a group of "gambling friends." We enjoyed playing blackjack, poker and Halo with each other. This story contains 2 scams.

Scam A (I've posted this elsewhere before):

Many of the guys feared dealing blackjack. One could lose bets to 5 different people if he were dealing! If he's just a player, he can only lose his 1 bet. A much lower risk situation, right? As such, only a few of us were willing to deal, and here are the rules we dealt by:

-Blackjack pays even money
-Dealers win all pushes
-If both the dealer and player have blackjack, the dealer wins
-The dealer did not have to hit on 16 or stay on 17. In fact, he could do whatever he wanted. As such, players only had one card revealed each to start, but all following cards were dealt face up. I have fond memories of watching people decide what to do when one player was showing over 21 on his up cards and other players clearly were in under the number. Fun times.

After a while we all became aware of the "real" rules of Blackjack, but given that no one else wanted to step up to deal, the few of us who wanted to deal demanded the old rules in return for our services. They readily agreed.

tl; dr - free money

Scam B:


Same group of friends also liked to skip school, a lot. I was a goody two shoes (big shock, I'm sure), so I never skipped school. I typically just drove over after class to join in their card games that they had been playing all day (one kid's mom did not care that they all skipped school and went to her house lol).

They all took things with their parent's signature on it, scanned them into the computer and then printed out a forged excuse note. They took a whole bunch of blank excuses and just ran em through.... 5+ times. By running them through quickly 5 times without letting the ink fully dry, they produced a signature that looked as if it were authentically produced by a pen (although it likely wouldn't smudge if tested, it already looked smudged). It was important to have authentic looking signatures as the school was known to compare excuse notes to past documents to ensure all signatures match. I know at least a few of them had several different documents their parents signed scanned in so each signature would look authentic but not 100% identical.

These kids skipped 25-30+ days of school each. Two guys claimed they hit 50+. The school was large and... never noticed the absences over a 180 day school year. It was truly amazing. Despite them handing in excuse notes to the same secretary, they always got away with it. Apparently that secretary wasn't very swift.

But they got caught. The neighbors one day decided they didn't like these kids next door and called the school to report all of them skipping. The school sent out security guys to record the license plate numbers. Only 2 cars were there, so they only went after 2 of the kids (approx 5 skipped routinely). The school told the parents that if the kids were "convicted" of this crime, they would have to serve their last month of high school in in school suspension AND would be barred from attending graduation. As such, their furious parents still covered for them with the school (save a very small handful of the absences) and the most disciplinary action any of them received was 3 days of after school detention.

tl; dr - GOAT senior year

yeota,

Please respond to this post.

If you weigh 80 pounds less, and you exercise and eat the same, you will obviously not lose weigh as quickly because your basal metabolic rate goes down. It's not like if you start eating 1800 calories a day as a 300 pound fatty, then you can just continue eating 1800 calories a day until you are 60 pounds and die.

As you lose weight, you burn less. Therefore you need to eat less.

Yeah, I don't know. A few years ago I joined a biggest loser contest at work. I just about cried when I weighed in at 239. I came up with a plan that was pretty lol in retrospect but it worked and I shipped the contest.

I ate one 1000 calorie meal per day (subway footlong tuna). The only other things I was allowed were water and diet pepsi. I feel like it was a lot easier to just eat once and be done with it as opposed to trying to stop eating several different times a day. I did drink socially when I went out to bars.

I did an hour on an eliptical machine and an hour on an exercise bike 30 days a month (I gave myself the 31st off in the 31-day months). In addition, I played in my usual T-Th basketball league and my Saturday tennis ladder league.

It sucked hardcore but I did lose a ton of weight. When you see that lower number on the scale it feels so great that it powers you through all the hours of suffering. We weighed in twice a month. At five months I weighed in at 189! I lost 50lbs in five months. Two weeks later I still weighed 189. At the final weigh in I still weighed 189 (good enough to win). My goal was to get to 178 (so that I'd no longer be a heavyweight in the boxing world) so I kept going. Three weeks after the contest ended I still weighed 189! I hadn't lost a single pound in 7 weeks doing the exact same thing that had me lose 10lbs a month the previous 5 months. The calorie in calorie out equation couldn't have changed that much so I'm assuming there was some kind of magic at play.

Now I'm fat again and losing weight doing the low carb diet. Pretty awesome. You get to eat tons of calories, feel full and still lose lots of weight.