Never heard of the body not knowing the difference between hunger and thirst, but drinking water can help with hunger sensations. Anyone that's fasted a few days can attest to that.

Eating slower helps because the signal that goes to your brain to stop eating takes some time. So if you eat fast, you get full, your brain doesn't get the signal, and you keep plowing through food, then finally get it and stop, whereas if you were eating slowly, you get the signal faster.

Anyone who has ever eaten a ton of food quickly should be able to know this feeling. If I ever eat super fast, I never feel full until its way too late. Eating slower and I'm way more likely to stop earlier.

Thats what I meant.

Theres a difference between that "I feel like snacking" hunger feeling that drinking fluid can get rid of vs I havn't eaten in 5 hours I'm hungry feeling.

Don't do that again Greear. This is a thread for grownups.

yeota, sorry for grunching up the thread in a sense...what did you start at, weight wise? when? and what are you at now?

dids, sorry if i missed your answer to my prev question, but how are you doing now weight wise?

i recently did a juice fast for 14 days and ended up losing 12 lbs and have kept it off, drastically changed my eating habits (i'm hilariously nearly vegan due to the sheer amts of veggies and raw foods i eat...except tuna and chicken for the most part) and then lost another 2-3 lbs. i've stopped weighing myself daily though so not exactly sure where i'm at now (started juice fast at 194, which was relatively terrible for me at 5'8 and now am prob just under 180. my 'great looking' weight is like 165).

Didn't see your question.

I've been at like 195ish for the past several years now. So I've kept the weight off, but also haven't lost that last 30 pounds either. I don't work out as much as I should- but I eat so much healthier.

If you felt bad, you could have eaten very very cheap calories (peanut butter, rice, pasta, etc)

-2005-senior year HS I was 180

-in June 2009 i was 6 ft, 310. That was the first time I looked at a scale and was over 300.

-by January 2010 I was 220 doing my 850 cal a day "crash diet".

-i settled in around 230-240 by september

-at some point i ballooned up again, probably just gradually from around november 2010-june 2011. got back up to 290.

-started dieting again, logging occasionally and weighing in. got to 266 by October 2011.

-ballooned again to around 280.

-Mid-April 2012 started what im doing now, which is a much less stressful version of my former diets at 278.

-Diet on hiatus in end of may-first week of june for vacation (back up to 278 lolz)

-as of 2 days ago im at 257.


Peak shape Ive been in since Ive had my fully grown adult body was August 2007. Was right around 200- worked painting houses all summer and was jacked and tan.


Current goal is to get to 210-220 again by next year's beach vacation (so end of May.)

Keep in mind that the 257 Im at now is much better than the 266 I was at in October because Ive been working out much more this time.


Enough detail for ya? hah.




another thing to add: my weight gain is inversely proportional to my GPA. the year when I crash dieted and lost all that weight (and mostly kept it off) I took a year off from school. school starts again, laziness/defeatedness/depression sets in, eat eat eat

that's great though. IIRC you were up near 300 at one point, no?

really great man!

yeota, seems like you bounce up and down a LOT. i def know what that's like (to a lesser extent in terms of % and amt of weight) and the only thing that really works is total lifestyle change and it seems that you're on the road to that so kudos.

yeah i definitely fluctuate constantly, i have a very compulsive personality

For athletes energy drinks are not really bs. More and more studies are changing their view points on that. I don't have websites but a number of peer reviewed journal articles that feel that way. A few articles I know of offhand are (there are a lot more than just this out there):
Jay R Hoffman titled Caffeine and Energy Drinks.
Caffeine: The Forgotten Ergogenic Aid by Jose Antonio.
Energy Drinks: A Review Article by Brian Klepacki.

There are a lot more out there and it is becoming pretty commonly accepted that caffeine is both very healthy for weight loss but also good for athletic performance. This was one of the biggest changes I've made for myself while getting my second degree (in nutrition to become a RD). I've started drinking coffee because its becoming very accepted in the nutrition community as unquestionably healthy.

If you meant they were bs in other ways then sorry for the derail. Also, if you do find those articles hope they say what I remember them saying because I haven't looked at them for at least a month or so.

What about this stuff? I use this on leg day most of the time.



375 MG of caffeine baby! Still healthy?

dude, gtfo this thread.

Oh. There's no question that caffeine is great for energy, sports, weight loss, etc. That's pretty indisputable. I just mean that most energy drinks I've ever seen have been loaded with other crap that they claim has some amazing effect when it really does nothing. People notice the effects of the caffeine and keep buying the stupidly expensive energy drink because they think that some random plant or some B vitamin or something is what's making them energetic.

Well, good calorie count but not great food today again. Had the 5 leftover bdubs wings for lunch, the greek yogurt as a snack. nuts as a second snack. 5 wings wasnt really enough.

then, because the stupid weather we had here knocked out all of the power in the area (well, we have it) my grand parents are staying with me. which meant no gym today, and then grandma insisted on cooking (it was her 80th birthday yesterday!) so i had to eat chicken parm with spaghetti for dinner, not what I wanted. and the pasta didnt much help fill up either, so ive been hungry. i also had 1 bite of a delicious slice of hazelnut cake, didnt log it though because i had no idea how to start.

looking forward to my omelet tomorrow AM, thats for sure.

yeota,

What kind of omelet? I'll eat the same in solidarity!

if neither you nor yeota have started this likely delicious process, might i recommend one of my fav relatively low fat/cal omelets:

- 1 whole egg, 2 additional egg whites
- 2 slices of fresh (not the prepackaged stuff) low fat cow's milk mozzarella
- 1/2 cup fresh basil, chopped very fine (this requires about a big hulking handful of basil leaves washed and dried)
- 1/2 cup of shallots, diced small (or onion is fine) (NOTE: this is quite "shalloty" lol...so maybe 1/4 or 1/3 cup if you don't like shallots as much as me and DEF use less onion than you would use shallots)
- (optional) 3 slices heirloom tomato

typical omelet prep: mix 3/4 of the basil into the bowl where you whisk your eggs. then saute shallots til just as they caramelize, turn down heat to low/med, then pour in egg/basil mixture (add salt/pepper), mix around etc.

as egg just starts to solidify, add slices of mozzarella.

finish cooking, fold over. on plate, sprinkle over last 1/4 of fresh basil and top with the heirloom tomato slices.

i like them cold (like the cold/hot contrast) but if you like it warm, add into the omelet right after the cheese starts melting. they shouldn't be mushy imo.

this is like one of my top 3ish fav omelets

Why are airline seats all the same size? In the center of large planes why can't some rows be 5 seats and other rows 4 seats? Heavier people would be required to purchase the wider seats which cost 25% more.

Its actually quite expensive to gut a plane and redo it entirely.

In addition, what do you charge the person who fills the obese-seat and is clearly not obese? Do you restrict the obese-seat to a certain size? There goes the economics of the plane flight, which is already usually a net net zero or negative.

The discrimination would not end it would just take a different form.

The seat is priced at the higher rate. Smaller people can buy either size seat. Obese people are required to purchase the larger seat.
Someone must be able to design an airplane where the seat sizes are easy and economical to change.

For anyone who hasn't seen in, HBO's "Weight of the Nation" series is worth watching, IMO. It's available on YouTube.

I found it motivating as hell to watch such an in depth discussion of the obesity epidemic.

will check it out.

also fat, sick, and nearly dead is VERY inspiring and touching. they have it for free for some short period of time on www.jointhereboot.com

Just about every airline out there has this. Its called first class.

well as it turns out all the grandparents ate the eggs (son of a bitch!)

so now im having a salmon burger.