or maybe, like was mentioned itt, it has to do with the conditioning of the body? maybe my body was used to eating 1200 calories a day for 8 months and then spazzed a blew up with it starting getting more, and carbs?


NOPE YOUR JUST A DUMBASS FATTY GO KILL YOURSELF

Hm. So either physics applies to everyone but you or something is wrong with your measurements.

Quoting this to try and get the thread back on track. This is a pretty solid scame imo.

its just simple math man, i love lying to anonymous people over the internet about what i ate while on vacation

The only thing that's simple math is calories in and out. There's no simple math with you forgetting how many Oreos you stuffed your face with after dinner or how many rum and cokes you had.

You are not special and your body does not conjure calories out of thin air.

The question is - did you maintain the 15lb gain for the rest of the week? Or, once you went back to your "dieting" did you pee a bunch of water out and end up with only a 5lb weight gain? Cuz I know alcohol makes me bloated and you ate a bunch of fried **** which I'm sure had a ton of salt which could cause you to retain water, etc.

Or did you say "well clearly dieting doesn't work" and resume eating crappy thereby making the 15lb weight gain a reality?

youre right, i somehow forgot the 20 oreos a day i ate while i slept to make up for the 2k calories a day that disappeared

I'm not saying you're lying. More like you are not remembering everything you ate or have a bad idea what calories are in what or you before/after weights aren't reflective of your true weight change. Check out my graph. There is a lot of variance in weight change. All those weights are done right when I get up. But so much variance. No one things I wa net plus or minus 2 pounds of calories some of those days.

im about 3 weeks out and have been back on my diet and have lost 12 lbs.

That's a lot more likely then you defying thermodynamics

You didn't keep a food log, you have no idea how many calories are in food, and you have no idea how much you are eating b/c you don't really care (re: 1600cal/day +25 lbs in a month)

i know how it works

i know how weightloss works, because im sure ive lost more weight than anyone itt over my entire life


i also know how many calories are in food, because i have to consciously count them all the time or else i gain weight.

Well there ya go. Just as it's unlikely that you gained 15lbs in 2 weeks, it's unlikely you lost 12lbs in 3 weeks of true body weight. Welcome to regression to the mean.

So you're going with "the laws of physics apply to everyone but me" ?

brb, gonna go eat 500 pizza rolls because the guys on the internet think im a fat full of **** ******

Based on a fitness / diet book i read sometime ago, called "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" written by Tom Venuto there is a possibility that the two guys in this thread who seem to really try but don't have results may be extremely carbohydrate sensitive.

Venuto is a champion fitness competitor and personal trainer. In his book he says that all the laws of thermodynamics and such apply to everyone but in his training of clients he has found that a very small percentage follow his nutrition rules and ratios 100% and see very little gains in comparison to the bulk of his clients. In those few cases he said that adjusting the nutrient ratios up for protein and down for carbs seemed to work. He also said cycling down carbs when you reach a plateau can help break plateaus.

YTF: You mentioned that you did "the same thing every day" and it stopped working. You body is amazing at adjusting to routines so you need to mix up the healthy foods you eat as well as change up your workouts.

This discussion should be moved to another thread... but this thread was mostly people confessing to thievery anyway.

You know who else walks a mile a day

yeota,

You didn't reply to my earlier post. You said "eating a "normal" diet- roughly 16-1800 calories a day, i put on 25 lbs in a month or so."

Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories

So let's say you are eating 1/3 fat 1/3 protein 1/3 carbs over that period. That is 17cal/3g. 1700cals = 300g = 2/3lb.

So in the course of a month, if you consume at that rate, you do not take a dump at all, and you do not burn any calories, you will add 20lbs of mass to your body.

Do you see how absurd your claim is?

This is why I and others assume you are simply bad at tracking and estimating caloric intake.

In addition to that, you do not seem to understand the impact of short term gains due to water retention after doing things like drinking a lot.

This is not rocket science. While people have different metabolisms and react differently to food, you are not breaking any laws of science. On your trip you likely consumed more than you realized (lol at vacation eating out meals including fried food averaging 400 cals for lunch and 1000 cals for dinner, and I'm sure you ate a lot more than you realized after drinking a ton) and your weight gain was likely not a real 15 lbs, but some combo of weight gain and retained water weight.

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ahh the internet is wonderful. i went back and found a log of what i ate. this is using a calorie counter, of which 90% of the things i had to customize the caloric count of (used the websites stock for things like eggs and veggies). looks like i was off on my 1200 calorie average!

the above is a sample of 33 days, consecutive. i weighed in once per week. this starts with me at 251.4 lbs, and ends at 243.6 lbs. i can assure you i was very precise with the amounts entered (looking at what i ate, most days were 4 scrambled eggs or a can of tuna for lunch, and most dinners were these costco brand chicken strips or frozen salmon filets)


now according to Karak and his fancy basal calculator, a 6 ft 260 lb person burns ~2500 calories a day at rest. so lets assume that a 250lb person at 6ft burns 2300?

now during this time, i was also very active. i worked out 3 times per week, lifting heavy weights and doing light cardo- usually jogging for 1-2 miles according to my log (on a treadmill). i also was in the marching band 5x a week, and officiated baseball and basketball.


anyway, over those 33 days i lost about 8 lbs. 3500 x 8 = 28000. So whats wrong with the math? Looks like i averaged about 870 calories a day. Using my BASE rate of calorie consumption, I should have lost 15 lbs over this time!


Weird.

I want to know what you actually ate on the days you only logged ~500 calories. Surely you have the actual food items logged.

i wasnt going to contribute anything to this discussion ITT, however for the sake of clarifying what my name was attached to:

the BMR formula i used was the Harris-Benedict equation

the obvious drawback of this method is it doesn't account for % of lean body mass, but i was just using it for a ballpark # and then adjusted for an absurdly conservative estimate relevant to our discussion

obviously, even with an extremely conservative BMR estimate, gaining 25 pounds over 30 days at 1600-1800 kcal/day given the stated weight/height is completely absurd.

goddamnit you couldnt have asked that faster? i just closed the page. hold

Also, have you ever been and seen a doctor and had your thyroid checked? Or looked to see if you had a tumor?

also yeota's error is most likely not in keeping an honest foodlog (as he perceives it), but rather not being able to properly calculate the caloric value of each specific entry. if i keep a detailed foodlog, but don't know how many calories are in a given meal, my foodlog is mostly worthless.

edit - i see the above is a food log from 3 years ago, so i retract what was here. i'd be much more interested in the food log from the recent "beach vacation."

i did tell yeota if what he's reporting were absolutely correct he needs to immediately see a doctor as he likely has a serious medical condition (such as a thyroid issue) or a fast growing tumor.

like a really, really, really fast growing tumor.

really fast.

Sept. 13, 2009.

Lunch: 6 OZ frozen cod filet, baked: 140 calories

Dinner: 10 OZ Costco Chicken Strips: 367 calories

Water: 32 OZ: 0 Calories

Total: 507 calories



Sep 6, 2009

Same as above + 5 Asparagus spears: 39 calories

Total: 546 calories

hey no **** a fried seafood dinner isnt 1500 calories, where did you think i said that?


As i said, i know exactly how many calories were in 90% of the items, because I entered them based on the nutrition facts and used my custom entry to garner measurements. granted idk if i ate an egg that might have had 3 or 4 less calories on day than another- i dont have that technology in my home.