Frozen food like this is usually loaded with sodium that acts as preservative. Don't know about this product, but frozen food is never really good for you.

huh?

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/reci...es/sea-veggies

Alternatives to fish are mainly sea vegetables. The link has a list of some of those.

Also, Tofu (which I hate), or mashed up chickpeas are really good for you.

If you go the Tofu route, pick up TONU. It's like Tuna but Tofu.

OP,

You should be eating lots of lentils.

Red meat is not bad for you. Dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol are not the same thing.

Eating red meat is bad for the cow. It is fine for you.

http://articles.latimes.com/.../health/la-he-red-meat-20120313

That doesn't refute the blanket statement "Vegetarianism is healthier than omnivorism" though, even if it's true.

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/Artic...ake_Of_It.aspx

Junk science is junk.

I was only responding to the post above mine that said fwiw I'm not vegetarian for health reasons so I don't really care. I just googled "red meat bad for you" and first result was the peer-revieded study out of Harvard.

Mainly I only stopped in to troll Greg, but seriously question for converts. Aside from my need for plenty of protein due to sport the other reason I would never consider it is the feeling I get when eating a meal without. It may only be psychological, but I just never feel full. So eating is without physical satisfaction. Did you ever experience this? Did it go away in time?

I was going to reply to OP, but I don't have the energy.

Link to scientific studies pls.

"Regardless of how balanced your diet is"

"Vegetarian is about equivalent to red meat 3 times a week or less"

I don't know if its possible to talk out of your ass more than this in one short paragraph.

I don't "get" the "ethical" rationale.

What is unethical about man killing and eating animals?

Seriously, I just don't get the "ethical" holier-than-thou-meat-eater "rationale".

Explain pls.

We kill animals using cruel and inhumane methods

So vegetarian's think it's okay to eat meat if you kill the animal in a non-cruel, humane way? Like an Indian who prays to the Mother Earth Spirit, and stuff like that?

Vegetarian opinion will vary, obviously. I personally have no problem with hunting and eating wild animals for food, as long as its done in moderation.

99, not sure how much you care and how much you're just trolling, but it's not like there is one answer that covers why every vegetarian doesn't eat meat.

Oh, and your next question in this debate is now supposed to be, Why is it okay to kill vegetables and not animals? How do you know vegetables don't suffer?

gregorio, plz address my question?

So long as there's zero suffering, I don't think there is a valid moral argument against. Of course, as a modus operandi, this probably never happens, and so it's almost certainly immoral to eat meat assuming a viable substitute. I have no idea if 'moral vegetarians' feel this way, however.

The moral argument is summed up thusly:

I'm honestly curious about the ethical claim. I makes absolutely no sense to me.

Man is an omnivore animal. Does this mean that other omnivore animals shouldn't eat meat? Like those dog owners that feed their dogs vegetables only. I guess their dogs are more ethical?

And yes, the "Why is it okay to kill vegetables and not animals and how do you know vegetables don't suffer?" IS the next question. How is killing one thing rationalized as being "better" than killing another? I don't get it. I guess it is okay to kill lower forms of life? Are barnacles and snails okay? How far down the chain does one have to go until it is okay?

You probably think the answers are "obvious" and that only a troll would ask them, but that isn't the case here. I honestly can't see how the vegetarians rationalize their stance on this. Maybe I don't/can't understand it because it is illogical? I could accept that answer. Or maybe you have some other explanation that will help me to understand? Not to agree with, but to understand.

I really don't understand why ethical vegetarians don't eat mollusks. I mean they literally have no brain, just like a nerve cluster. They obviously don't suffer and they are either wild or farmed in a very sustainable and responsible manner. And their diet would be much healthier with oysters and mussels.

And an ethical vegetarian who eats eggs and dairy but won't eat mollusks is lololololololololol

most men are omnivores, but that isn't the same as most me SHOULD BE omnivores. Just because something is a certain way doesn't mean that it should be that way.

and its different to kill a vegetable vs an animal because a vegetable can't suffer in any way that is meaningful to a vegetarian, the same way a rock can't suffer in a meaningful way. suffering is on a continuum from rock to human or whatever. I'm a "vegetarian" but i have recently eaten oysters and scallops because they dont have brains and aren't capable of suffering in a way that is meaningful to me...