Hey hey, let it go, he is southern....

Hallelujah. That explains it. Will excuse the nonsense then and we can just roll with it.

Go have some bbq. You'll feel better!

So I heard.

or you could just be a huge bo$$ and use the coupon and if she don't like it then **** her best friend

Yeah, it's all that cajun spices and **** on plastic plates ****ing up his palate.

girl problems with leoslayer will go far beyond the coupon situation... its the last thing i think he should really worry about.

Yeah I mean if there is plenty of time left before the coupon expires and you know you will be back then don't use it. I said "use it, who cares?" but I was always imagining this coupon being basically within days of expiration. As in, "is it ever OK to use this coupon in the presence of a judgmental female?"

What would y'all say if the coupon expired the next day? Still don't use it?

That is absurd, how much money their potential spouse will make has a direct impact on the quality of life they will have. It also says a lot about a person if they're broke and/or have a low paying job, sorry.

Actually ended up sending my neighbor to do it (he already knew him). I went and got the check, though.

This post is the closest afaik.

It isn't your intelligence that we'd question; it is your interest-level and the quality of future relationship that is possible.

Guys who would use a coupon on a first date are failing a basic principle of women's needs: impressing our gfs.

Though the idea applies to first-dates, birthdays, anniversaries etc. Valentine's day is the best example of this. Guys generally throw a cheap bunch of flowers and some chocolate at us over dinner and call it a day..what we want is something that elevates our position the next day on the phone/facebook/conversation with other women by demonstrating that you find immense value or worth in us. Note: this needn't be monetary, though that is the easiest way to do it. Some sort of romantic effort is just as awesome.

So when a guy takes you to a place that accepts coupons and uses one on a first/early, date he is not only demonstrating that he doesn't understand/care about this principle enough to even fake it during the interview stage, but also that his "A" game is sub-par. I think most women assume that a 10/10 date is going to lead to an 8/10 relationship.

Guys, you can obviously attack this idea, and women will almost always lie about it when asked --because it is an ugly truth-- but listen in on the chit-chat next Feb. 15th and you'll see that a: women are asked over and over again, "What did you do for V-day?" and, b: the women whose husbands/SOs put the most effort/money in are the happiest and object of most jealousy.

We want a guy that will do that for us.

yea, in the middle of a relationship it is silly. but as a first date I feel like casual works better than nice because the mood of the restaurant is usually lighter and the expectations of the relationship dont begin with a dinner that is already an outlier. I do agree with him that if its not a place she would go with her friends for a girl's night out then its kinda silly to try to guilt him into going there. I would never date a girl who expected me to take them to places that they wouldnt even go on their own with friends. Obviously, if there is some restaurant that is super conducive to couples and not at all to groups then this would be an exception.

Just to try and head off the attack that probably has to come from my last post I want to add:

Compare the feeling that we get with something like having all of your guy friends over for poker/football/gaming and your girl coming in handing you a beer, putting some delicious snacks out and then leaving you to it for the night.*

Lesson #1573 on how women say they want one thing, but in reality want another.

Myth: Women want a guy who idolizes them and will do anything for them.
Truth: Women consider guys who do that to be weird, stalkerish, and desperate.
Reality: Women want a guy who *might* be interested in them, but has plenty of other options.

serious question: why do you want people to be jealous of you and envy your position? I know people of both sexes do this, but I really hate having the feeling that people are jealous of me and play down great things that happen to me in order to not be put in this position.

What you are saying is largely true, but irrelevant in this context. We're not talking about day-to-day, we're talking about events.

If you bomb the events, the next time you act like a disinterested a-hole and she tells her gfs: they'll all but force her to dump you. "You could do so much better. Remember how much of a jerk he was on your birthday?"

You're making a classic guy-mistake. How your relationship generally functions has absolutely nothing to do with this.


I'm obligated to say, "Oh gee, I don't care. It is just other dumb women that do."

but I do care. It is not only great to feel like he thinks I'm important enough for the effort; it is also an important social tool in your average female circle, and it is annoying and embarrassing to have a crappy answer when you're bombarded with the "So, what did you do for [Event]?"