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I'd never practice this kind of hunt myself. But from what I've seen most of these places are actually good for the enviroment overall, for example; the hunter will pay dozens of thousands of dollars to kill a giraffe and the money is used to preserve the ecosystem and take care of dozens of other giraffes.

However if he's hunting endangered species then there's no excuse and he's a ****ty human.

Dude paid some locals to bait the most famous biggest tourist attraction endangered animal in an impoverished country off the national park where it lives so that the could shoot it with a bow, track its bleeding carcass, and nail its head to his wall. So, no.

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07-29-2015 , 11:13 AM

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Spain's king had to abdicate after he killed an elephant.

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07-29-2015 , 11:18 AM

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So, is his practice open today? His yelp page is hilarious. Did I hear there is gonna be protesting at the practice today? Would be hilarious if you had an appointment today at his place if it didn't already get cancelled.

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07-29-2015 , 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill

I'm very pro gun and also completely fine with hunting but this strikes me as just ridiculous. There's gotta be something wrong with someone who pays 50K to travel around the world to kill a specific animal just because it's extra "cool"

I mean, hunting for food is perfectly fine. Hunting for sport is also fine, provided what you're hunting isn't endangered and has healthy populations (ducks, deer, etc.) There IS a difference.

But the whole "big game" hunting concept strikes me as little man syndrome. At that point you're not doing it for sport, you're doing it because of some insecurity you're overcompensating for.

People are overreacting sending him death threats and stuff, it's not like he was a poacher, he at least attempted to do it "legally" or what not.

Good post. Agree with everything but the last part. He is even worse than a poacher. Poachers are mostly poor people who are poaching as a means of income, which is incredibly dangerous (people are allowed to kill poachers) compared to this guy who has money and is doing it purely for his own satisfaction.

I don't like or agree with poachers, but doing something to feed yourself and your family seems a lot more noble than paying guides to lure an animal out of a protected area and basically kill it for you so you can keep the head pretending to be some badass.

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07-29-2015 , 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill

it's not like he was a poacher

Actually, it's exactly like that.

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07-29-2015 , 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill

People are overreacting sending him death threats and stuff, it's not like he was a poacher, he at least attempted to do it "legally" or what not.

Not looking that way. There are reports that this was also illegal because they hunted at night, plus luring the lion out of the park may have been too. That's in addition to the whole collared and probably recognizable lion they're saying.

I don't pretend to know the finer points of Zimbabwe's lion-hunting regs, but this guy does. He's obviously not new to big-game hunting, and you don't fly around the world and spend $50k without some idea of what the ROE are. Unless almost all of the reported details are wrong this guy just didn't gaf.

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07-29-2015 , 11:41 AM

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I'm not in the know regarding big-game hunting, but if they kill giraffes, then it's not just apex predators that are the objective which leads me to believe that the Inuits and the like are missing out on a golden opportunity.

They get an allowance to kill X number of whales for subsistence and it seems like one of these rich dudes would pay a tidy sum for the opportunity to go out on a boat and get their Ahab on.

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07-29-2015 , 11:43 AM

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Also hearing that neither he or the land owner had a permit

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07-29-2015 , 11:45 AM

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Jimmy Kimmel says it best

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07-29-2015 , 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AUGUY55

So, is his practice open today?

No and their website is down.

Not sure if I should feel bad for the rest of the people who work there. If so I'm at least subtracting any business partners, associating with a known POS has its risks.

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07-29-2015 , 12:07 PM

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Just to add to Kimmel, "Cecil" was fairly rare looking because of his black mane. These "professionals" would have instantly recognized him in the glare of the spotlight, knowing that he was worth millions to the tourist industry.

I wouldn't be surprised if under the table payouts aren't found to be involved in all this. The Texas guy paid $350,000 to kill that rare black rhino, so the money is buying influence. These people are sick.

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07-29-2015 , 12:24 PM

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Every now and again I go lurk Stormfront to see some hot takes of news events.

I made it a surprising 17 posts full of normal reactions, before seeing this one

Just how many?!?

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07-29-2015 , 03:59 PM

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http://news.sky.com/story/1526921/ce...t-over-killing

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07-29-2015 , 04:35 PM

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Send him back for a trial.

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07-29-2015 , 05:34 PM

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this dentist sounds like the typical african disney animation villain.
sounds like this is a great subject for the next last night with john oliver.

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07-29-2015 , 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by einsteinaint****

I have no clue if it's the case with Cecil but in Africa with the big park and tourists paying big money like this, the money is a huge factor in keeping lots of other animals and the park operating to keep those animals alive from poachers and such. 1 dead lion can save many other animals and keep the park running smoothly.

The story behind this one seems ****ed from what I've seen but havn't looked into it ot much. There's is a lot of good coming from these types of hunts tho as the money goes a long way if its done by the country/officials.

Does anyone know if the dentist was poaching or had permit? From what little I gathered he was poaching.

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07-29-2015 , 07:51 PM

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It was a joke to demonstrate the point that majestic is in the eye of the beholder / cultural norm.

I have no plans to stop eating meat. I'm just not sure how doing so is morally different from what this dude did.

This difference is one is being killed for sustenance/food, the other is for fun. You see no moral difference?

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07-29-2015 , 08:35 PM

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Aggressive animal lovers are seriously the worst. Remind me of feminists

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07-29-2015 , 09:13 PM

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it's nothing amazing but louis theroux wrote a nice balanced piece today on this:

https://www.facebook.com/LouisTherou...87951584656026

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07-29-2015 , 10:00 PM

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This difference is one is being killed for sustenance/food, the other is for fun. You see no moral difference?

I see no moral difference because people who kill deer and then eat them don't have to do that. Nobody needs deer meat. They aren't starving and in need of food. It would only be morally different if the person was alone in the wild and their only source of food was animals.

I also don't think this particular case applies in the comparison because it's an endangered animal and a tourist attraction.

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07-29-2015 , 11:18 PM

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This difference is one is being killed for sustenance/food, the other is for fun. You see no moral difference?

You don't need to eat meat. You could eat vegetables. You (we) eat meat because we want to, because it's delicious and because it is a more enjoyable, fun experience.

It's an arbitrary distinction.

Fwiw. Still think this guy is deplorable because he stole the lion from the nature park.

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07-30-2015 , 12:15 AM

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It is only an arbitrary distinction if you think people enjoy that an animal had to die so we could eat it. When I eat beef I'm not all "**** yeah lololol just killed the **** out of some dumb cow lolowned"

not to mention that we are now operating on the assumption that the desire to kill for "sport" is just as normal as the desire to eat a wide variety of food. Which it isn't. At all. The argument sucks.

If I saw someone going around killing spiders or roaches and proudly bragging about his "conquests" I'd think that guy was a cocktard, too.

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07-30-2015 , 12:17 AM

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it's nothing amazing but louis theroux wrote a nice balanced piece today on this:

https://www.facebook.com/LouisTherou...87951584656026

That's very good.

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07-30-2015 , 12:19 AM

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If you were this guy, where would you go? what would you do? besides put soda in a water cup at Chipotle.

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07-30-2015 , 12:22 AM

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If this all dies down from a legal perspective, I would think he only needs to change his name and get re-certified under his new name. A year from now, nobody is going to know what this guy looks like. Isn't the dude that killed Dominique Dunne still chef-ing somewhere?

If it doesn't die down, he can always work at a BSP or Cabela's or somesuch

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