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Old 12-11-2006, 04:28 AM   #46
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Great Report.

You sound like you were good at keeping to yourself and not escalating problems. That to me would be the hardest part of a sentence. I enjoy a good fight and the fear of getting more time versus takin a beatin is a tough call I think.

What happened to guys that were eager to fight and didnt take any shyt?
they met guys who were bigger, got months added to their sentences, and spent alot of time in isolation. If I were ever to go back, I would get into a fight right away to go into isolation and away from the [censored].

If you want to fight, you better be affiliated with someone. White dudes end up with the arian nation.
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Would they need to worry about gang buds retaliating if you put a beatin on their bud or?
yep
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Lets say you beat Mister Cali up good. What happens then?
I get shanked within the next two days.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:28 AM   #47
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Very interesting post. I know it wasn't my fault and that it doesn't do you any good, but I'm sorry you went through that.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:33 AM   #48
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I'm curious - what's with the honey bun?
I have no idea how that came about. Probably because inmates had access through the commissary store to the snack cakes and the words honey and bun. Whatever, I didn't want to seem to curious to find out.

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My coworker said that guys who were having sex in prison came into the system with the thought of sex with other men (not why they committed crimes, but that they were interested beforehand) and saw prison as an opportunity to experience it. In your experience, is this accurate?
describes quite a large portion of them....'punks'
get sent to Big Muddy in Illinois.


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Did you get any prison tats?
nope, although I use my IDOC# as my screenname at a few sites.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:38 AM   #49
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one question...

why did they send you to the max security first, then after you got in a fight you went to the easy one? i dont understand the process.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:38 AM   #50
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When you decided to let him kick your ass(good call), did you curl up in a fetal position?
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:43 AM   #52
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Could you get drugs, which ones, how much, did you use :club, how u pay?
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:57 AM   #53
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one question...

why did they send you to the max security first, then after you got in a fight you went to the easy one? i dont understand the process.
neither do I, or the guy that processed my arrival at Vienna

he said I was the first prisoner he ever had from seg at a max to general pop at a min.
I was never a 'max' prisoner. I was considered the miniest of the min. That is why I was trusted with outside grounds work. (Side note: the other guys in outside grounds were ok people who made mistakes as well. Guys I would easily share a beer with in other circumstances.)
Basically, when my name was brought up in a threat (unknown to me), that triggers a whole process of re-evaluation and sending all inmates mentioned to different prisons. I was no longer outside grounds elgible due to my seg time. I then went to one of the two lightest minimum prisons in the state (Vienna and East Moline).
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:59 AM   #54
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When you decided to let him kick your ass(good call), did you curl up in a fetal position?
no....put hands up to block my face/eyes/etc, but made no aggressive move back. Took the first one standing/staring down like I was some sort of tough guy. Quickly, my mind went to survival mode.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:00 AM   #55
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Best TR I've ever read.

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that means alot coming from someone whose TRs on Thailand have entertained me much
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:03 AM   #56
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I took a criminal justice class at school and we watched a movie on maximum and super-max prisons. The movie made it seem like almost everyone was in a gang and it was all racially divided... Arian Nation, Mexican Mafia, etc. Is this really that big of a factor?
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:04 AM   #57
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This is one of the best threads I have read in a long while. Thanks for your thoughtful comments, and sorry you got hammered by bad drug laws.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:05 AM   #58
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Could you get drugs, which ones, how much, did you use :club, how u pay?
Back in the day, I could get just about everything. My roommate dealt marijuana and GHB. A friend of his grew shrooms, manufactured GHB, manufactured DXM, and was working on DMT(?). My next door neighbors deal cocaine and ecstasy. Drugs flowed through are little corner of our apartment complex. The only drug it would take me more than a day to have a hook-up for was heroin. I never got close to that one. I'm sure I could've if I wanted. My neighbors' coke binges were scary enough.

It would cost me less than $3 for a dosage of GHB. Acid was $5. X would be $15. Things were ridiculously cheap compared to market values.

I paid in cash...I worked alot.
When the prosecutor was talking about me being a dealer, I told my lawyer he should look at my bank accounts....lol.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:07 AM   #59
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I took a criminal justice class at school and we watched a movie on maximum and super-max prisons. The movie made it seem like almost everyone was in a gang and it was all racially divided... Arian Nation, Mexican Mafia, etc. Is this really that big of a factor?
yes, over 90% of inmates either are, or become affiliated with one group or another in those facilities


supermax is mainly just for gang chiefs who cannot be trusted to live in max prisons without creating a very dangerous environment for everyone.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:08 AM   #60
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This is one of the best threads I have read in a long while. Thanks for your thoughtful comments, and sorry you got hammered by bad drug laws.
your welcome and thanks for the sympathies
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