Could you get drugs, which ones, how much, did you use :club, how u pay?

neither do I, or the guy that processed my arrival at Vienna

he said I was the first prisoner he ever had from seg at a max to general pop at a min.
I was never a 'max' prisoner. I was considered the miniest of the min. That is why I was trusted with outside grounds work. (Side note: the other guys in outside grounds were ok people who made mistakes as well. Guys I would easily share a beer with in other circumstances.)
Basically, when my name was brought up in a threat (unknown to me), that triggers a whole process of re-evaluation and sending all inmates mentioned to different prisons. I was no longer outside grounds elgible due to my seg time. I then went to one of the two lightest minimum prisons in the state (Vienna and East Moline).

no....put hands up to block my face/eyes/etc, but made no aggressive move back. Took the first one standing/staring down like I was some sort of tough guy. Quickly, my mind went to survival mode.

that means alot coming from someone whose TRs on Thailand have entertained me much

I took a criminal justice class at school and we watched a movie on maximum and super-max prisons. The movie made it seem like almost everyone was in a gang and it was all racially divided... Arian Nation, Mexican Mafia, etc. Is this really that big of a factor?

This is one of the best threads I have read in a long while. Thanks for your thoughtful comments, and sorry you got hammered by bad drug laws.

Back in the day, I could get just about everything. My roommate dealt marijuana and GHB. A friend of his grew shrooms, manufactured GHB, manufactured DXM, and was working on DMT(?). My next door neighbors deal cocaine and ecstasy. Drugs flowed through are little corner of our apartment complex. The only drug it would take me more than a day to have a hook-up for was heroin. I never got close to that one. I'm sure I could've if I wanted. My neighbors' coke binges were scary enough.

It would cost me less than $3 for a dosage of GHB. Acid was $5. X would be $15. Things were ridiculously cheap compared to market values.

I paid in cash...I worked alot.
When the prosecutor was talking about me being a dealer, I told my lawyer he should look at my bank accounts....lol.

yes, over 90% of inmates either are, or become affiliated with one group or another in those facilities


supermax is mainly just for gang chiefs who cannot be trusted to live in max prisons without creating a very dangerous environment for everyone.

your welcome and thanks for the sympathies

Great post.

this link (http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms.asp) is interesting. I'm just searching random last names and browsing photos and fascinated by it.

Myturn,

Sounds like you got shafted by the system hardcore. You are the perfect example of why the drug laws in this country are ******ed.

it is a fascinating site and I cannot believe it is up to tell the truth

no chance of me popping up, however, as I no longer showed up after finishing my parole

I can't decide how I feel about MT2R's punishment. It's obviously [censored] that he went to a max prison, that goes without saying. But a year... I don't know. Maybe 6-8 months would be better.

Would he have changed his lifestyle without prison time and just a couple years of probation? Probably. He says he would have. But at the same time, that feels like a "get out of jail free card" in my opinion. I mean... if you know you can do whatever drugs you want and at worse you will get probation... that's not really a deterrant.

BTW, this post is independent of MT2R's individual situation. I'm just thinking outloud about drug laws in general.

it seems like m2tr is still paying for his crime.

others, who arent as smart, would be completely screwed.

What happens to guys like me who are biracial? (black/white)

Is there anywhere for us to fit in a racially divided prison?

depends how dark your skin tone is
it will be an issue

I remember asian-american members of the population having problems as there were so few of them

what does shanked mean? raped? killed?

shanked means stabbed by some sharp object...likely a tool crafted from a razorblade and writing utensil


EDIT: Urban Dictionary:Shanked. I like definition 2 the most as cornbread was served an awful lot.

Great thread man. I don't have any specific questions but I'm really enjoying it.

MT2R,

Speaking of that cornbread, prison movie vs. reality question.

Some guy (maybe this Cali guy you described or some black guy) grabs some of your food.

What are your options here?

Sounds like you are f'd if you fight him.

If you let him take the food, what next?

If someone like that decides to mess w/ you and you aren't affiliated with a group, are you pretty much just screwed?

How often does this kind of thing come up and how does it usually end up?

ty.

myturn,

If you got to do it again, what exactly would you do about the aptitude tests? Do you think taking the full time would have helped even though you would obviously score highly? What percentage of the questions do you think you'd have to tank to achieve a more desirable prison assignment?

How much did stuff cost in the commisary? If possible, give answers in units of hours worked .

Is it true what Worm tells Mike McD about all the separate economies? Were there opportunities for you to win money/stuff/favors by playing cards or by hustling chess?

When you were doing the ankle bracelet time, were you allowed to have a job (telecommuting or whatever)? Did you play poker during this time? If so, would this have been explicitly disallowed or implicitly disallowed or neither?

Were there any open/obvious/known homosexuals? Were all of them punks? Would everyone know that a prisoner was a punk? Were the punks open about their status?

Were condoms available? Did anyone ever talk about HIV or other STDs?

protect your food better next time and get better lunch mates. If guards see it, the offender taking the food is scolded FWIW.

often, yes


he'll take more and more....eventually, he'll have you buying stuff at commissary for him to take from you. I've seen it.

yes


comes up often. I remember someone braggin how he was going to spend $100 at commissary to the guys on his deck. He goes, and does spend $100. He comes back with his arms full of stuff in grocery bags. Before the guard comes up from the guardroom on the ground floor to open the gate for the floor, he is jumped by 5 other guys. They took all his stuff.

The guy violated learns it's best to affiliate oneself and usually does. The alternative is to become heavily involved with the chapel/church groups whether one believes or not. OF course, that doesn't buy full immunity, but it helps as they often get to do things at other times than the rest of the inmate population.


This happens on a weekly basis