don't let them find out.
honestly, it's more of let's band together as white guys. It seemed that only a few of the 'leaders' took the anti-Jewish race stuff as a big deal. Most of it was about banding together as white guys, so we don't get our azzes kicked as a minority in the system.
I never heard of them going after Jewish prisoners. They might look down at you, but they are more concerned about protecting themselves from other inmate groups.

HOnestly, it was my opinion to just stay away from the stuff altogether as that crowd doesn't help.

I actually met some guys a few nights ago who know you in Champaign. I don't think I got their names, but one of them had a twin and was a little chubby with black hair. He could've been Italian.

How would a Persian like me be treated in prison?? My skin tone is lighter than most white people. Technically, I am Caucasian.

I don't think so. I don't think I would have done as well as you did.

If you went to prison for simple possession of GHB, dont get caught playing poker for a living, you might get the death penalty

It is really random where drugs take hold on campus. If you aren't around the drug scene, you won't even notice most of it other than weed here and there and, possibly, ecstasy. Those that smoke and buy alot of weed will come across things. Some of it is in the frats. Some was in the student-athletes. Some was with the non-greeks. Some was with the townies. It really cut across all spectrums. One frat lost its charter at UofI over an event where they smoked 8-balls and got naked with some ladies on the quad. Another frat had a problem with using E at a pledge event. Hard drug use was really an individual or small group thing and not an institutional matter. Most drug use should be unseen, even though it's happening all over campus. It's not good to make yourself known. I personally never interacted with campus, champaign, or urbana police ever. Only my close friends knew of my use. When I was on G at a bar, most just assumed I was drunk. I confined other drug use to safe environs.
Let's see, pre-prison, I lived in the following places:
Hopkins Hall
48 E John (CPM apt complex at the corner of locust and john--this was where I lived when busted)
102(?) Gregory (Gabe's place apt building at the corner of first and gregory)

since:
Forbes Hall
a house on Wright just north of White--I forget the address
305 E Green (apt building by where Burger King used to be, across from Gully's)
48 E John (again)-much different vibe the second time around
806 W Oregon- house

I now live just off the corner of Lincoln and Oregon in a Gabe's Place apartment building

I'm real excited about Illini football. Zook is a recruiting machine. It seems very likely they will be bringing in a marginal top10 recruiting class to Champaign this year. The young guys are going to get lots of experience on the field as they did this year. Experience on the field counts big time. With that talent getting playtime, Illinois will be a top20 team within 2 years.

Unfortunately, Zook isn't the greatest game coach. His clock management sucks. He is excellent at developing the defense (which is his baby). Locksley is a good OC and a great playcaller. I am concerned that Locksley will be on to either a head coaching job or pro coordinator job in the near future.

The Illini schedule gets tougher next year, which sucks. The crazy thing is Illinois should've been a bowl team this year. They outplayed Ohio, Indiana, Penn St, Wisconsin, and were in great shape verse Purdue. The fumble issues, inexperience, punting game, and weakness at left tackle really hurt. All of these things should improve. Hopefully, Zook will have a good kick returner back the whole year instead of just the last few games. With the number of big play potential guys the Illini are bringing in, the return game should be huge.

I expect a low bowl game next year and competing for the Big10 crown (but falling short) in two years. The future is bright and I think Zook is going to make it big at Illinois do to his recruiting and strength at developing the defense, despite his below average game coaching.

thanks...
there isn't much to a guide, it boils down to this:
1. Keep your mouth shut
2. Keep your eyes open
3. have a support network from the outside (make sure it's a support network, bad vibes from outside don't help)

I feel the same way

yah, i'm pretty sure i'd be someone's bitch.

i've read all the posts so far, but i can't recall seeing anything about this. if you handn't gotten in the fight with cali, would you have stayed at the same prison your whole sentence?

TylerD
Corpsebean
bigt439
CrayZee
donkeylove
GambleAllNight

wow....just a random sampling on this page. Sorry to not respond to everyone who has given similar sentiments. I'm glad so many have enjoyed this thread. I feel a little silly about not posting it for so long now. I just didn't think it was that interesting. I have to disagree with it being one of the best on 2p2 ever, let alone this week. I'm still blown away by Sup Bro, How Many 5 year olds?, chuddo/Olivia, banging chicks on myspace, MSPaint, etc as far as non-strategy. This thread isn't even in the same ballpark IMO.
But, I'm very happy that many of you have gotten alot out of it.

yes, I most likely would've stayed at Joliet the whole time. I had sent in numerous requests to move and the consulors were not up for signing off. They thought I was better off in Joliet. Like most public officials, they were underpaid and overworked so mistakes happen.

really? people who know me? Not ringing a bell, but a definite possibilty. I don't get around town much anymore.

About the only people that know me are guys who shoot pool at Jillian's, some PhD students, and people that give me the odd look because I'm the guy watching the portable DVD player while doing cardio workouts at CIRCE.

If your skin tone is faint enough, you'd just fit in with the white guys.

man, who'd of thought catching a beating would be one of the luckiest things that happened to you in this year or two.

Now you're obviously just trolling.

Just out of curiosity, where did your lawyer put your chances of going to trial and getting found not guilty. It seems like the cops [censored] up pretty good at the scene. Were you the one that rented the hotel room? How many people were in the room partying? Did you admit the GHB was yours when you were questioned by them? Did they fingerprint the bottle? When the cops go into a hotel room filled with a bunch of guys partying, and end up just taking names and leaving, it seems like it would be really hard to come back 3 months later and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that one particular person out of the group had possesion of a bottle that was under the bed or in a dresser drawer or whatever.

It also looks like there might have been some 4th Amendment issues with the search since (I assume) the GHB wasn't in plain sight.

Excellent story, thanks for sharing

hopefully they will be finished with the construction on impe before im done here.

why were you hanging around cali all the time? why did you talk back to him?

MT2R-

You said never making eye contact and keeping your mouth shut are really important. What happens if you walk past a couple random guys and just nod and say "Hows it going?" and keep walking? Ass kicking time? Or just seen as a guy trying to be friendly?

Did you read the OP?

One more question.

Everyone knows what it's like to have a really good dream and wake up to reality and feel a little depressed that it didn't really happen/have a really bad dream and wake up ecstatic that it didn't really happen. Did you experience this often in prison and if so how did you feel when you woke up in Joliet? Did you ever wake up and think you were at home in your bed and then realize you were in prison?

And great thread btw.

This is a huge thread now and is the best TR. Great job to OP for keeping up with questions. I'm glad things are working out for you now

I noticed in your original post that you didn't elaborate on "One of the Greatest moments of my life was on one of her visits" when talking about your girlfriend. Care to elaborate?

Also Gabe's Place apartments suck. I'm in one now.

You will be paid to go back to Joliet for 1 month, starting tomorrow.

How much is the minimum you would take?

great TR

I didnt realize you still live on campus.Ive actually been to some of the places that you have lived at. Great thread btw. My uncle served time in the min security prison at Vienna. He was in for drug possession and selling (i believe it was almost every drug there was). I visited him once there when i was younger, the place didnt seem too bad at all. My question is, in regards to preparing for life after prison, what would you have done differently?

The one on 1st and Gregory always looks dirty and run-down. I do like the out-of-use Mountain Dew vending machine on the side of the building however. I hope the rent there is dirt cheap.

my roommates g/f lives there now, the insides are crap. small and run down. rent is cheap though.we once tried to steal that vending maching to make it into a kegerator, but the cops kept driving by