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Old 07-20-2010, 08:09 PM   #151
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Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
Just for the hell of it this weekend at a dive in the lower part of your borough, I ripped a $5 and a couple of, maybe a few, $1's, out of the table waitress' hand and replaced it with a $20 for no other reason than my being drunk and dying to put her ankles next to my ****ing neck. Curious as to where this would fit into your "job-I'm-capable-of-doing-myself" theory given the ease of delivering pitchers coupled with the difficult of being a hot college age female.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:14 PM   #152
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I don't know the customs in Canada when it comes to this but this would pathetic in the States
It is pathetic here as well.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:23 PM   #153
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LOL at not tipping taxi drivers and barbers.

If you don't want to tip them then walk, take the subway, and have your friend/you cut your own hair and stop being a cheap douchebag.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:32 PM   #154
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I generally get charged $14 for a haircut and tip $4 or $5 because the service is good as well as quick, and I've been going there for years.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:49 PM   #155
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SOP for tip jars?

I think tip jars are kind of a scam but I'll usually just throw my coins in there after any small purchase which I think is fairly standard, however there are times where it just feels wrong.

An example would be I get stuff that costs say $X.85, throwing 15 cents in there actually seems worse than just taking my change and leaving nothing. Then I think I'm probably being dumb, and that, "if everyone they serve all day gave 15 cents as opposed to nothing it would add up..." you get the idea.

I still feel weird leaving anyone less than a quarter, but I'm also not giving a dollar every time I go into a damn bodega just because they all of a sudden have a jar out there.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:52 PM   #156
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Good post. Loose change for me usually goes in there
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:01 PM   #157
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I generally get charged $14 for a haircut and tip $4 or $5 because the service is good as well as quick, and I've been going there for years.
This seems like a very weird amount to tip, why not just make it an even 20?
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:12 PM   #158
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This seems like a very weird amount to tip, why not just make it an even 20?
It's not weird at all. You're combining the two amounts, which have nothing to do with one another. FWIW if you stopped 100 people on the street you wouldn't find 3 who tip anywhere near $5 on a $14 haircut
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:17 PM   #159
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not sure if this is the case elsewhere but in the US every random place that involves serving you something (typical example being coffee or a smoothie) has a tip line if you pay by credit card

this trends annoys the **** out of me since it requires you to affirmatively decline to tip, whereas a countertop box with change/bills marked 'tips' (the predecessor to the tip line at these places) feels very casual and optional
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:43 PM   #160
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SOP for tip jars?

I think tip jars are kind of a scam but I'll usually just throw my coins in there after any small purchase which I think is fairly standard, however there are times where it just feels wrong.

An example would be I get stuff that costs say $X.85, throwing 15 cents in there actually seems worse than just taking my change and leaving nothing. Then I think I'm probably being dumb, and that, "if everyone they serve all day gave 15 cents as opposed to nothing it would add up..." you get the idea.

I still feel weird leaving anyone less than a quarter, but I'm also not giving a dollar every time I go into a damn bodega just because they all of a sudden have a jar out there.
I agree with this sentiment. In my country there are these kids in supermarkets, packing your stuff at the checkout, and working only for tips, not even minimum wage. There is also these people who work as informal "parking facilitators", if you know what I mean, in the vicinity night venues and the like. I usually tip this guys a reasonable amount, if I feel like they deserve it, but I have seen other people giving them half a quarter and the like and it is like WTF you better don't give them any money, unless you want to punish them for some reason.
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:58 PM   #161
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I have never experienced this. fwiw, in most European countries you DON'T tip in clubs, bars, and other places where you're served over the counter. For example, afaik, it's rude to tip in a pub in the UK. In Germany, you may round up when paying at a bar but it's def not expected if you were served over the counter.
I agree - same here in Ireland. We never tip for over the counter service, not because we're cheapskates but coz its not expected. If they do get tipped then its because somebody paid €10 for a round that cost €9.95 and forgot to take their 5 cents change with them. In my local bar where I do most of my drinking I would almost be embarrassed to hand them a tip - i would just feel stupid!

Most definitely would leave a few euro's tip after a sit down meal somewhere...
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:47 PM   #162
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It is pathetic here as well.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:48 PM   #163
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:50 AM   #164
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Just for the hell of it this weekend at a dive in the lower part of your borough, I ripped a $5 and a couple of, maybe a few, $1's, out of the table waitress' hand and replaced it with a $20 for no other reason than my being drunk and dying to put her ankles next to my ****ing neck. Curious as to where this would fit into your "job-I'm-capable-of-doing-myself" theory given the ease of delivering pitchers coupled with the difficult of being a hot college age female.
Jesus christ, don't you people watch The Office
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:47 AM   #165
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I'm curious about tipping for a haircut,I can understand tipping a waiter as I'm paying for the meal and I'm tipping them for the service and all the extra running around they do for me.When I get a haircut I'm paying for the haircut so what's the tip for?
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:50 AM   #166
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Btw, is tipping taxi drivers in the UK supposed to be standard? I have never done this. It's quite possible I've just never heard of it, but I dunno. The idea of tipping taxi drivers seems pretty strange.
I'd never do it in London apart from in a 'keep the change' way and I don't think most people would either.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:27 AM   #167
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I'm curious about tipping for a haircut,I can understand tipping a waiter as I'm paying for the meal and I'm tipping them for the service and all the extra running around they do for me.When I get a haircut I'm paying for the haircut so what's the tip for?
But why isn't "all the extra running around they do" priced into the bill anyway (and paid out in their wages)? Tipping isn't very logical, you tip where it's customary to tip and don't tip where it isn't. Unfortunately it seems (at least in the US) that the number of situations where you're expected to tip is growing. Tip jars are sprouting up by cash registers everywhere, and they must be stopped. Where it's optional, please don't tip, for the good of humanity (or pretty soon it will be expected there as well).
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:31 AM   #168
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not sure if this is the case elsewhere but in the US every random place that involves serving you something (typical example being coffee or a smoothie) has a tip line if you pay by credit card

this trends annoys the **** out of me since it requires you to affirmatively decline to tip, whereas a countertop box with change/bills marked 'tips' (the predecessor to the tip line at these places) feels very casual and optional
This is really annoying and I tend to pay cash more in these places just to avoid it. Or I'll sign it and not put anything for the tip or total.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:33 AM   #169
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I'm curious about tipping for a haircut,I can understand tipping a waiter as I'm paying for the meal and I'm tipping them for the service and all the extra running around they do for me.When I get a haircut I'm paying for the haircut so what's the tip for?
The person cutting your hair? If its not the owner, the person there only gets a pretty small cut of the cost, and the tip goes 100% to them.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:25 PM   #170
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Also, I want to meet the idiot who though it appropriate to tip taxi drivers and barbers. Never in my life have I tipped either and I don't plan on ever doing so.
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I think you'll find that most of the people on this board are these idiots.
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You're just a cheapo.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:08 PM   #171
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Re: Tipping

moving over from the stingy thread, what are thoughts on tipping hawkers (even concession workers) at sports games? Ive never done anything outside of a small "keep the change" type tip and was surprised to read that people regularly add a buck or two to their 6 dollar beer.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:11 PM   #172
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I don't get beer at games b/c it's so expensive, but almost everyone I've seen has given tips on beer. Usually only beer, though, other than the 'keep the change' thing on items that cost $x.50.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:16 PM   #173
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After reading the posts in the other thread, I asked my friend who was a beer vendor at Fenway what percentage of people tipped. His response:

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Old 07-21-2010, 01:18 PM   #174
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LOL at not tipping taxi drivers and barbers.

If you don't want to tip them then walk, take the subway, and have your friend/you cut your own hair and stop being a cheap douchebag.

Tipping just seems to be some bizarre custom where people have convinced everyone that extra money should always be given to them. If you don't conform, you're a POS.

I'm pretty sure not tipping taxi drivers is pretty standard in the UK aside from in big cities like London. I can't think of one good reason why taxi drivers magically deserve extra money from me voluntarily.

Like seriously, why does taxi driver tipping need to become widespread and standard here? Are you a taxi driver looking to scam more money or something?

I don't tip when I'm getting my hair cut and would feel pretty weird doing so. But then again I get my hair cut at a cheapo place. If it was some moderately expensive place tipping might make sense.

Aside from tipping 10-15% at decent restaurants, tipping is something I've hardly ever heard discussed in Northern Ireland.

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Old 07-21-2010, 01:20 PM   #175
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The one thing that bothers me the most about tipping discussions is how up in everyone's business everyone thinks they ahve the right to be.

Let everyone do what they want to do without getting so freaking indignant about it. I might think it's cheap to tip 5% or stupid to tip like 30% but live and let live.

The absolute moral outrage and self righteousness some people show when it comes tipping is pretty insane.

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Tipping just seems to be some bizarre thing where people have convinced everyone that extra money should always be given to them. If you don't conform, you're a POS.
Well, it probably started as a way some people recognized those who went above and beyond. Like some guy was doing a service job and did a super terrific job, impressed the customer so much the customer felt the need to tip him for such a great job.

As an incentive system, tips are great. Give great service, get a great tip, good service, good tip, bad service, bad (or no) tip.

The problem is it someone began being viewed as a god given entitlement. No matter how freaking bad service you get, there are people who will tell you what a scumbag you are unless you tip 15% or more, because "that's how they make their living" or some other business.
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