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02-26-2014 , 10:39 PM
It's a franchise of orderup.com

I didn't even know the company I was working for till about two seconds ago now
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02-26-2014 , 11:05 PM
There's a delivery business like that in Atlanta called Zifty. They pay $2.13/hr and guarantee $12/hr.

http://static.zifty.com/jobs/faq.html

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Q: How much will I get paid?
A: We pay you the "waiter's wage" of $2.13 per hour plus 50 cents per mile. You'll also receive tips from our customers. In the end, we guarantee you'll earn at least $12 per hour when considering your hourly wage, mileage reimbursement, and estimated total tips. If you don't make that much over a pay period, we'll supplement your paycheck with a bonus to cover any shortage. (Estimated total tips are based upon reported credit card tips and an estimate for all unreported tips. Estimated total tips may vary (more or less) from your actual tips received because we don't track every tip you'll get).
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02-26-2014 , 11:41 PM
There is a delivery company like that in my town also. I think it just opened within the past year, seems like a pretty interesting business model.

Seems like a good place to pick up chicks to Wu...

Save some money and do bicycle delivery. It could be a good way to promote environmentally friendly delivery options. You could start your own business, this is a great idea, people always want to "go green". If you get rich off of is you owe me one!
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02-27-2014 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Aria99

Seems like a good place to pick up chicks to Wu...

For all the benefits of this job compared to other student gigs, this seems unlikely to me. The best job I've had for picking up chicks so far was working at Target. It was a cornucopia of young chicks coming through, especially in back to school season. I got a ridiculous amount of numbers. Hell, I gave discounts to every girl I thought was hot. You could reduce the price of any item so long as it wasn't a big amount, and I did so gratuitously.

Last edited by wutangpoker; 02-27-2014 at 12:25 AM.
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02-27-2014 , 12:24 AM
Although I guess if you wanna get technical, I'm gonna get more numbers from this job. But not cuz I'm gaming. Rather, cuz customer numbers get sent to me and saved in an archive. I'll probably pull "hey I delivered your food earlier, and I'm going to deliver you cock later "
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02-27-2014 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Harris
It's not "I want to know what tipping is" outside the US. Most of us do it even if the fractions change.

I'm with El D. Cash unmentioned or really really bad service (with their manager dragged in to resolve) most likely. Someone stiffing on a 1k bill: they must exist, but balance of probability...
Some countries in Europe don't tip at all. Yes, they know what tipping is, but it is a possibility they were not aware of the US customs. That said, 99% sure that it was one of El D's reasons.
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02-27-2014 , 02:43 PM
All,

http://www.sfgate.com/restaurants/ar...on-5271447.php

LOL @ the amount of tips food trucks and the like are getting due to this.
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02-27-2014 , 02:59 PM
When I used to grab lunch in a food court there were a couple places that had a tip option that automatically came up on their debit machine. I then avoided these places out of principle. I think I would do the same with the food trucks.
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02-27-2014 , 04:23 PM
KoF,

I pay cash for most everything, otherwise I'd prob do that too.
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02-27-2014 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
All,

http://www.sfgate.com/restaurants/ar...on-5271447.php

LOL @ the amount of tips food trucks and the like are getting due to this.

Sounds like *******-ish behavior.

Eagerly awaiting the exciting next step: when McDonald's cashiers start asking you directly, "Would you like to leave 15%, 20%, 25%, or no tip today?"
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02-27-2014 , 08:48 PM
You would avoid an awesome food truck because they gave you auto-tip options?
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02-27-2014 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
You would avoid an awesome food truck because they gave you auto-tip options?
I live in a large city. There are lots of awesome places. So yes.
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02-27-2014 , 09:22 PM
yeah that type of article is what causes pushback against tipping...

you're coming up with new, psychology-based ways to shame people into tipping more and bragging about it? **** outta here
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02-27-2014 , 10:08 PM
Yup. Shame, pressure, and try to trick people into "tipping" them a bunch extra on a formerly untipped business.

They're probably trying to figure out how much time it'll take them to gradually ramp up the only tip options to 20%, 30%, and 40%.

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"As soon as that happened, we noticed we weren't getting any tips," said Bacon Bacon's Bobby Huneken, 27, whose position hovering over customers gives him a perspective from the front lines of tipping. "It clearly wasn't working."
What a major league *******. Do waiters stand there "hovering over you" and watching you as you fill out the tip line?

This **** is disgusting.

Although I admit that I took a look, and their food looks good. And changing the classic BLT into a LGBT for San Franciscans is hilarious (and probably does good business).
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02-28-2014 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nod88
Yup. Shame, pressure, and try to trick people into "tipping" them a bunch extra on a formerly untipped business.
I frequent a food truck in my city about twice a week. I tip them. I always pay cash and they don't have this ******ed system.
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02-28-2014 , 10:38 AM
That's fine. Railing against this horrible system obv.

That said, food trucks are a historically untipped business, until the advent of the gourmet food truck and the increasingly ubiquitous tip jar. Even after that, the majority practice and expectation is to not tip (as even the above article indicated), and for good reason, since its workers are not paid on the basis of tips. Their business is very different from full-service restaurant servers who are paid primarily on the basis of tips.

Their business is more similar to fast food restaurants, and almost nobody is clamoring to add tip lines to receipts or try to give FF workers extra cash on the side. This system is just another example of industry attempts to use social pressure, shame, and tricks to give them more money that they don't deserve.
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02-28-2014 , 11:49 AM
I read the article and found it pretty interesting. From the business point of view, it makes sense because it increases tips and that means more money so I can't blame businesses for doing this.

I'm curious what the % buttons use as the basis for the tips. Is it the pretax amount or the post tax amount?
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02-28-2014 , 11:53 AM
Well, one way makes more money than the other, so I'm gonna guess post tax.
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02-28-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
All,

http://www.sfgate.com/restaurants/ar...on-5271447.php

LOL @ the amount of tips food trucks and the like are getting due to this.
when I was in canada they process credit card payments at the table and it presents an automatic 15% option or custom amount. I wonder if this is good or bad for them, if left on my own I would have done around 20 but just stuck with the 15 that was already in there.

Also yesterday I tipped the AAA guy who installed a new car battery for me $20. probably not standard but it was 0 outside and the guy was good
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02-28-2014 , 12:01 PM
I was told in Canada tip of like 10% was more standard
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02-28-2014 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nod88
Yup. Shame, pressure, and try to trick people into "tipping" them a bunch extra on a formerly untipped business.

They're probably trying to figure out how much time it'll take them to gradually ramp up the only tip options to 20%, 30%, and 40%.



What a major league *******. Do waiters stand there "hovering over you" and watching you as you fill out the tip line?

This **** is disgusting.

Although I admit that I took a look, and their food looks good. And changing the classic BLT into a LGBT for San Franciscans is hilarious (and probably does good business).
How about just don't be a pussy and enter "0?" You realize that's an option, right? The interface may be somewhat odious, but as per the article, if someone is either too stupid to know that 20% of $70 is $14, or too much of a wimp to not tip when they don't feel a tip is due (or bother to go to the custom tip page and enter $1 ffs), that's on them. No one is being tricked here.
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02-28-2014 , 03:02 PM
Wait so what's the current consensus on Starbucks/Dunkin'/coffee shop tips?

At Dunkin' I've been getting the Brown Sugar Latte. Two times ago, I think it was the manager who made it and apparently he made it the "right" way which included whipped cream and sprinkled brown sugar, greatly enhancing the drink. How can I use tipping to my advantage to make sure the other employees make it the correct way? "Here's a nice shiny dollar if you use the whipped cream and brown sugar!" ?
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02-28-2014 , 03:35 PM
If they don't make it correctly you could ask them to fix it?
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02-28-2014 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Clare Quilty
How about just don't be a pussy and enter "0?" You realize that's an option, right? The interface may be somewhat odious, but as per the article, if someone is either too stupid to know that 20% of $70 is $14, or too much of a wimp to not tip when they don't feel a tip is due (or bother to go to the custom tip page and enter $1 ffs), that's on them. No one is being tricked here.
Clare,

Not quite right: the dumb think they are getting 'played' by the machine (and machine owner) as they are too dumb (as you rightly surmise) to determine their own tip amount. Or tip cash.

Best,
Pete
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02-28-2014 , 06:38 PM
Is it wrong for a waiter/waitress to grab our paid bill while we are still sitting at the table? I feel likes it's rude/poor etiquette.

Just to clarify we were still talking at our table (wasn't busy at the restaurant) when she comes by and grabs the bill which was under neath my arm (I was leaning over the table engaged in conversation)

Am I wrong to feel this is bad form on her part? Or am I over reacting?
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