Oh . My bad haha.

Well people all over work with no incentives, it's how the world is, .

You feel entitled don't you.

Seriously. I've seen this sentiment before many times, and what it boils down to is people are cheap and resent being societally pressured into tipping despite the many good reasons for it, and therefore mentally portray waiters as being entitled or especially money-grubbing. Waiters have no more of a sense of entitlement than anyone else who works at a job and expects to get paid for it.

I always tip for exceptional service. There was a system designed where everyone was rewarded equally for unequal levels of productivity called Communism.

Such a system currently thrives in only two places: China and the Foxwoods poker room.

You're clearly the one in the "something for nothing" crowd. Walk into the Gap, get a t-shirt, bring it to the counter and don't pay for it. See if they let you walk out with it.

For that reason, if you're not going to tip your servers, you don't deserve good service. Unless you've got the entitlement complex that you do.

fyp

Also, I'm sorry. I won't politard this up. Also, anyone who has ever taken a cursory glance through the Politics forum knows exactly how sarcastic I'm being.

I'll bet money that Smurg goes to boutique electronics stores with incredibly knowledgeable staff, talk with them at length about the differences in TVs and stereo systems, wastes hours of their time, and then buys his stuff at Wal-Mart.

I lol'd

They have this in Europe. And you get crap service.

Take BK/McDonald's for example...they don't get tips...how good of service do you get there? Piss-poor to say the least...

im a waiter. i'm in favor of tips.

on average whats your wage hourly?

2.5 + 20-40 (27 is average though)= so 29.50

edit: my shifts are condense though i normally dont work over 4 hours.

damn

where do you work if you don't mind me asking

You're hired by your employer to provide a service, not money grub. So do your job.

When waiters openly "remind" people to tip them, that's entitlement in it's purest form. I can't wait for a waiter to do that to me, openly stiff them, and then see the look on their face. Would be priceless.

Buying a t-shirt with a required price vs. tipping a server based on his/her service is not even close. I can see why you are a waiter, because you lack any capacity of logic. You could't hold any position of higher importance other than scribbling on a notepad and walking around carrying things.

I lived in Germany for 2 years and the service was fine, as well as anywhere else I went in Europe. Have you been there?


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I use newegg btw.

it's a tearoom. we're only open for lunch. and its somewhat formal but not overly formal.our customers are mostly old ladies (typically a bad demographic to serve) but they seem to be more sociable and well off. also a lot of the housewife sort. but a lot of our money comes from adding gratuity to parties and the customers not being aware of it and tipping on top of it.

edit. found a pic

Seriously? How is that not completely unethical?

pretty much every place does it if you have a party of 6-8 or higher...pretty standard

prolly a hot spot to get action...sick brag

Well, if you put a notice on your menu "Parties of 6 or more will be charged 18% gratuity," put it on the check, and then party tips you more, what's unethical about it?

Most restaurants have it right on their menu that parties of 8 or more are automatically accessed a 15% gratuity. Some people look over this on their bill and tip anyways. I'm sure some people see it and also tip anyways.

how do you tell a customer that just left you an extra hundred bucks that the gratuity was included?

Obviously nothing, but the guy said that people unknowingly tip him twice, and he apparently has no problem with it. I know that noone would ever do it, but why can't he tell the party tipping an extra 15% on top of the 18% auto grat that they are tipping twice? If they really think he did an outstanding job worth a 33% tip then they'll tell him, if not they can correct their mistake.

This is basically the same as accepting incorrect change at a super market, not notifying the bank of an error and so on, and I have a hard time seeing how anyone could think that not correcting either of those mistakes is the right thing.

But apparently everyone else thinks that this is standard, so I'll just chalk it up to me being a Euro and not understanding American tipping culture.

"Excuse me Sir. I noticed that you tipped me twice, so I was wondering if you were not aware of the auto grat that applies to parties of 6 or more."

Well, most of the time when you get the tip, they're already out the door and gone, so what are you going to do?

nah i like my money