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10-11-2015 , 03:10 AM
Me neither I think you got it right. That's a fascinating case but ages back iirc. Seems like the perpetrator(a) had a decent shot of getting away with it and succeeded.
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10-11-2015 , 04:21 AM
This is one of my favorite mystery cases. I think its 80% wandered into woods, not far but enough to fall or something then wildlife scatter remains. 20% shes picked up by rando, and in the nh woods, youre as good as dead.
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10-11-2015 , 06:29 AM
tandem driver theowy is so dumb for mutiple reasons. possibly suicidal and planned on drinking, knocking out thend reezing to death.
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10-11-2015 , 06:30 AM
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She was driving drunk, didn't want police involved, decided to make a run for it and succumbed to the elements. The fact her body wasn't found doesn't say much to me, there's lots of cases where they do an extensive search only for the body to turn up months / years later exactly where they expected it to be.
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This is one of my favorite mystery cases. I think its 80% wandered into woods, not far but enough to fall or something then wildlife scatter remains. 20% shes picked up by rando, and in the nh woods, youre as good as dead.
I thought this too, but 2 slight counterpoints are:
  1. the dog scents ended 100 yards away from the car, although this dog scent is probably worthless
  2. both a ground and aerial search of the woods found no footprints in the snow leading away from the crash site

Here's a map of the crash site, the woods do look pretty dense but probably not as never ending as I had imagined them being..

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10-11-2015 , 08:32 AM
Random thoughts: she bought Bailey's, Kahlua, and vodka and wine, but only the wine was in her car. So when she leaves, she's carrying the other three in some way. She leaves other stuff but apparently takes a backpack or clothes, toiletries etc.

The rag in the tailpipe doesn't seem to be consistent with suicide or wandering away solutions.

The wiki says a dog tracked her scent 100 yards east but then lost it. But it doesn't specify if that's along the road or in some other direction, i.e. out into the middle of the woods. Seems important.

The cadaver dogs going "bonkers" is a dumb addition to the wiki. There's no reason at all to think it relates to Maura.

The town she's in is a slight diversion to the east from a legitimate route to either Stowe or Burlington, but it's not a huge deviation. Drinking might explain it.

Renner's blog is annoying and seems designed to magnify attention on the case.
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10-11-2015 , 10:09 AM
Agree cadaver dogs are a red herring unless they actually find anything or learn to talk and tell us why they're actually alerting.
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10-11-2015 , 01:36 PM
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Renner's blog is annoying and seems designed to magnify attention on the case.
Definitely agree that he comes off pretty poorly in his postings, but the stuff he has dug up must be mostly true or else that family would be suing him into oblivion for defamation. The most interesting things from the blog all demonstrate that her friends and family were all lying about what took place in the days leading up to her disappearance.
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10-11-2015 , 02:56 PM
Sure: the stuff about Maura having committed credit card fraud and her having attended West Point are almost surely true, just because there are public records that should support those facts. But the atmospheric inferences he draws from them are a little ridiculous: "She had survival skills" because of being at West Point, where she "learned how to fire a machine gun from the top of a tank." I have no idea what the West Point curriculum includes, but I rather doubt it includes winter survival skills sufficient to keep her alive in snowy wilderness in New Hampshire in February.

Still, this is a mildly strange and interesting set of circumstances.
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10-11-2015 , 07:42 PM
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Why/where would she go on foot?

Why would she take a lift from the serial killer after refusing a lift from a school bus driver?
obv bc bus driver came up at the scene of accident while she was wet, and trying to get out of there. jon bones jones style
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10-11-2015 , 11:55 PM
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obv bc bus driver came up at the scene of accident while she was wet, and trying to get out of there. jon bones jones style
Yup.

She was also a cross country runner, which makes me think she thought she could just bolt out of there, but she was drunk, it was cold and she made the wrong decision.
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10-12-2015 , 05:51 PM
I don't get the whole rag in the tail pipe thing....what would anyone (either her or some killer) do that?

I think the most likely explanation is she was drunk and panicked cuz she got in a wreck and being on probation or whatever she didnt want the police involved so she just wanted to get rid of the tow truck guy. Probably not thinking very clearly (cuz wtf is her plan?) she starts walking down the road and gets picked up by some nut job, who keeps her alive for a while (voice mail is almost definitely her, woman who supposedly saw her later is at least some % chance her), but im sure eventually kills her.

I feel pretty horrible for her dad. His life pretty much ended that day and all he does is spend his time looking for her. I can't even imagine what that must be like. Poor bastard.
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10-12-2015 , 06:52 PM
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voice mail is almost definitely her
This phone call? Confirmed as being from the Red Cross.

Rag in the tailpipe seems like either a terrible attempt at something to do with suicide by someone, or a terrible attempt at keeping a dodgy car running.


Why did her dad cash out $4k from various machines on his trip to see her? What are the chances the weekend he visits, she disappears? There are a few strange questions surrounding the dad, but nothing particularly incriminating in my eyes.
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10-12-2015 , 07:00 PM
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Why did her dad cash out $4k from various machines on his trip to see her?
He was going to buy a car for Maura.

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I don't get the whole rag in the tail pipe thing....what would anyone (either her or some killer) do that?
According to her father her car was smoking pretty bad so he suggested she stick a rag in the tailpipe to hide the smoke.

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10-12-2015 , 07:04 PM
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He was going to buy a car for Maura.
In cash? While his house was being foreclosed on and when she already had a car? There are a lot of odd things about the dad in this story.
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10-12-2015 , 07:17 PM
Kind of think she was drinking and driving, crashed. Couldnt live with another disappointment, grabbed red rag out of roadside kit, stuffed the muffler, tried to kill herself. Got interrupted when somebody pulled up, didn't think her suicide plan would work and got scared and ran. Later passing out from the side effects of carbonmonide poisoning. Then somebody picked her up off road while she was passed out then molested and killed her if she wasn't already dead.
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10-12-2015 , 07:31 PM
His house was being foreclosed on over 4k, it's not like it was a large amount he couldn't afford. Probably just one of those wackos who decided he was going to make a stand or some **** and lost him home.
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10-12-2015 , 08:31 PM
Found this on Reddit. It's a local town crazy who Renner made relevant by posting about him on the blog. He's a homeless cart pusher at Walmart.

He made the following videos on one of the anniversary's of her disappearance.



This guy has some blogs of his own if you dig a bit.
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10-12-2015 , 10:18 PM
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According to her father her car was smoking pretty bad so he suggested she stick a rag in the tailpipe to hide the smoke.
Yeah plus she was out drunk driving so she didn't want to get pulled over for something like that.

Kind of a fun mystery because it could be anything, a suicide, a murder, and accidental death from exposure, even an escape to start a new life.

I think she probably tried to hide from the police until she could sober up but got lost in the elements and froze to death. Terminal burrowing explains no remains being found. A serial killer happening by at just the right moment seems unlikely but i guess maybe that's how these things go down.
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10-13-2015 , 12:23 AM
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This phone call

Why did her dad cash out $4k from various machines on his trip to see her?
If he's in debt and his house is being foreclosed on it makes sense for him to be getting his money out of his bank accounts to hide it from creditors. Buying a car for Maura seems like a logical lie to cover up that that's what he was doing.
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10-13-2015 , 08:30 PM
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Found this on Reddit. It's a local town crazy who Renner made relevant by posting about him on the blog. He's a homeless cart pusher at Walmart.

He made the following videos on one of the anniversary's of her disappearance.



This guy has some blogs of his own if you dig a bit.
Well that is certainly creepy. The end sequence of stop laugh>wink>smile>happy anniversary is so deranged. I'm not familiar with this case. Was this guy ever looked at as a suspect by authorities or just the blogger?
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10-14-2015 , 12:20 AM
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Renner's blog....seems designed to magnify attention on the case.
Hmm, imagine that.
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10-14-2015 , 12:26 AM
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from Wiki: June 2006

A girl resembling Maura is seen at a Cumberland Farms store in Hillsboro, New Hampshire with an older male companion. The girl is reportedly mouthing "help me." [5] There are no security tapes of the incident available. The sighting was not reported until a few months later when the witness saw photos of Maura on a television news program.


creeeeepy.
This is very creepy indeed but it's not on Wikipedia any longer. I wonder if someone could have just edited and made it up?

Mysteries like these are sad but fascinating. You should read up on the murder of Robert Wone, who was killed in Washington, D.C. in 2006.

here
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10-14-2015 , 01:00 AM
^^ No mysterry there, they just got away with it
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10-14-2015 , 01:15 AM
Wasn't there a Wone thread on here?
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10-14-2015 , 08:30 AM
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Well that is certainly creepy. The end sequence of stop laugh>wink>smile>happy anniversary is so deranged. I'm not familiar with this case. Was this guy ever looked at as a suspect by authorities or just the blogger?
Yeah, he was questioned by police and cleared apparently.

Blogger is an interesting dude.
When Castro was caught (Held three women hostage in Cleveland, OH for 11 years iirc) he realized he had him in his notes.
His daughter was the last one seen with one of the victims but he didn't approach her b/c she was underage. He'll never know if it would've changed a thing tho.

Castro's son said some parts of the house were always locked or s/t. It certainly blows my mind how this could go on for so long with family in the picture too.

Edit: Now he's got me all interested and the blogger posts "All your questions will be answered May 24, 2016." What a dick

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