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03-18-2013 , 05:45 PM
I have an annoying friend who met Reggie Bush one time. His friend works with someone who knows Reggie. Anyway, now whenever someone brings his name up he talks as if he has inside info that no one else knows. Somehow he now has more info then people whose primary job is to uncover info on the subject.

In this thread we have another annoying guy/girl like that.
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03-18-2013 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
I have an annoying friend who met Reggie Bush one time. His friend works with someone who knows Reggie. Anyway, now whenever someone brings his name up he talks as if he has inside info that no one else knows. Somehow he now has more info then people whose primary job is to uncover info on the subject.

In this thread we have another annoying guy/girl like that.
yup
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03-18-2013 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by culs20041
If you don't find me credible or the perspective of a person from the town who is familiar with the names associated with the story, then stop reading my posts. Lots of threads on this forum go downhill quickly with this vetting process of someone who posts rather than just evaluating their posts. I frankly couldn't care if you find me credible but stop trying to soul read some motive or agenda into my posts. Responses like that are dull
I've engaged plenty with the contents of your posts, and I explicitly stated in the post you're responding to that I don't think you're pushing an agenda. It does seem you're biased, but that's a different thing. I don't trust that your view of the case isn't clouded by parochialism and connections to some of the people tied up in it all, but that doesn't mean you're trying to be deceptive.

It also doesn't mean that I'm disinterested in your view of it all. I look forward to hearing what your connection to the case is and hopefully the 'ask me' thread that follows.
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03-18-2013 , 06:23 PM
Reported that two people have been arrested in connection with threats made to the victim
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03-18-2013 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
I have an annoying friend who met Reggie Bush one time. His friend works with someone who knows Reggie. Anyway, now whenever someone brings his name up he talks as if he has inside info that no one else knows. Somehow he now has more info then people whose primary job is to uncover info on the subject.

In this thread we have another annoying guy/girl like that.
Lol. And that's all I got to say about that
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03-18-2013 , 06:47 PM
03-18-2013 , 07:01 PM
Both those links are so disturbing.
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03-18-2013 , 07:04 PM
Can we change this guy's name from culs to culled?
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03-18-2013 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Steroid Boy
They sure sound nonchalant. Teenage sociopaths are the worst.
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03-18-2013 , 07:18 PM
Oh man, those ****ing links. That victim blaming stuff is beneath the pale.

From the texts, two things jump out at me. First, the way they colloquially throw the term 'dead' around is really disturbing and suggests that there's some sort of scale of 'deadness' that these guys use when they talk about hookups.

Second, circumstantially there's a fair bit there to suggest Jane Doe was drugged.

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Trent Mays:
Her dad knows, and if our names get brought up, if asked, she was just really drunk.

Trent Mays:
They knew she stayed at Mark’s. You just gotta say she was asleep by the time you got there.

Trent Mays to Cody Saltsman:
Nodi’s running his mouth saying how dead she was. If anyone asks, we just took her to Mark’s, and she fell asleep.

Trent Mays to Mark Cole:
Just say she passed out at your house if anyone asks.

Mark Cole:
IDK she was ****ed up. It was her fault she was ****ed up.

Cody Saltsman to Trent Mays:
I got you, man. I’ll say that you all were just taking care of her.
Edit: Actually, three things. None of them even seem to consider that what went down was wrong. Not that they knew and didn't care, but they actually didn't realise at all.
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03-18-2013 , 07:41 PM
She had a drug screen. It was negative for everything except for what is presumptively her own prescription medicine
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03-18-2013 , 07:48 PM
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Last edited by Michaelson; 03-18-2013 at 07:53 PM. Reason: stupid speculation
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03-18-2013 , 07:55 PM
Thinking on it a bit more, given their nonchalance over text message about everything else it doesn't seem they were thinking for a second about the possibility of them coming back to haunt them. That being the case, it's unlikely there wouldn't be explicit references to any other drugs involved.
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03-18-2013 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
All,

I wonder how much that jackass dude's video influenced the guilty verdict.
Since it was a trial by judge instead of trial by jury I think it had little to no effect. Also, the fact that the perps got a relatively light sentence compared to the maximum indicates to me that the video was not considered.
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03-18-2013 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by culs20041
She had a drug screen. It was negative for everything except for what is presumptively her own prescription medicine
When was the drug screen performed?

Awaiting your ridiculously biased and ******ed response.
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03-18-2013 , 08:09 PM
Her medical records were posted online by an anonymous account. It was within the first 72 hours after the crime.

Awaiting your dull, angry response. Lol
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03-18-2013 , 08:12 PM
"Be responsible for your actions ladies before your drunken decisions ruin innocent lives."

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03-18-2013 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by culs20041
Her medical records were posted online by an anonymous account. It was within the first 72 hours after the crime.

Awaiting your dull, angry response. Lol
I feel like I need to talk to you like you are 1-2 years old, but I will refrain. Have you any clue how long common date rape drugs stay in your system? Or do you just post anything to defend the ****ty town that you came from?

And yes, I am angry, many normal people who read about this story are.
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03-18-2013 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
"Be responsible for your actions ladies before your drunken decisions ruin innocent lives."

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Yeah, definitely the pick of them. Unfortunately though not an altogether uncommon attitude.
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03-18-2013 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
I feel like I need to talk to you like you are 1-2 years old, but I will refrain. Have you any clue how long common date rape drugs stay in your system? Or do you just post anything to defend the ****ty town that you came from?

And yes, I am angry, many normal people who read about this story are.
Seeing as how I'm a prosecutor who has prosecuted a fair amount of rape cases I'm sure that I have no idea how long a date rape drug stays in a persons system. Also, since I have followed this case only since August I'm sure I have no idea what the basic facts of the case are.

So carry on boys and girls... I'll just lurk and learn from ND what really happened that night

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For the non ridiculous people reading, your reactions seem reasonable based on the coverage of the case. But keep reading about the case if you're interested and you'll see it has not been accurately reported by most outlets
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03-18-2013 , 08:29 PM
lol

Last edited by Fabian; 03-18-2013 at 08:29 PM. Reason: see you in 15 minutes
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03-18-2013 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
I feel like I need to talk to you like you are 1-2 years old, but I will refrain. Have you any clue how long common date rape drugs stay in your system? Or do you just post anything to defend the ****ty town that you came from?

And yes, I am angry, many normal people who read about this story are.
I just looked it up and for GHB it is apparently up to 24 hours but more commonly like 6. Is there any proof she was drugged other than what she said? Not sure I would trust her memory of that night. Are there any other sort of date rape drugs that would stay in someone's system for longer? While a test 72 hours later isn't dispositive, it seems better than having nothing at all if other drugs exist that would've popped on that test timeframe.

Just read those texts, want to vomit. Trent Mays is seriously lucky to only have gotten the sentence he did.
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03-18-2013 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by culs20041
Also, since I have followed this case only since August I'm sure I have no idea what the basic facts of the case are.

lol, seriously we get it, you have followed this case since August. Surely if you are a lawyer you can realize how relevant that is though?
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03-18-2013 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by culs20041
Seeing as how I'm a prosecutor who has prosecuted a fair amount of rape cases I'm sure that I have no idea how long a date rape drug stays in a persons system.
How did those cases go? Seems you would be a better defense attorney.
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