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01-04-2013 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I seriously must have gone to high school and college with the nicest people in America. None of this stuff would have ever happened. When girls got super drunk at parties people took care of them, almost to an absurd degree. Rape wasn't a joke at all. I seriously just don't get it at all.
This goes for my experiences as well 100%.
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01-04-2013 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Looking beyond the absolute monsters that did the raping...

What the flying **** is wrong with the kids who were laughing about it in the videos and stuff? Who are these ****ing people?

I seriously must have gone to high school and college with the nicest people in America. None of this stuff would have ever happened. When girls got super drunk at parties people took care of them, almost to an absurd degree. Rape wasn't a joke at all. I seriously just don't get it at all.
Ya I don't either. And it isn't like some super jock alpha male testosterone feeding frenzy behavior. I know that, partially am that, surrounded by it and stupid as it can be there are limits to the desensification of that kind of group. Like, how could not one of any influence stop it and just not be the worst type of human ever.
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01-04-2013 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
lmfao, you didn't read about the corruption in the town between police and prosecutor and drug dealers and what not? Any local judicial actions cannot be seen as above board.
reference post #12.

what makes it too soon to want to know if it was premeditated?

I don't see how my comment leads to your point. but w/e.
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01-05-2013 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IcyHotMonkey
reference post #12.

what makes it too soon to want to know if it was premeditated?

I don't see how my comment leads to your point. but w/e.
Almost every other post you've made in this thread doesn't have to be squinted at very much to be seen as protecting the perpetrators. How could this be un premeditated with the information on LocalLeaks site? How could this be at all the victims fault based on the LocalLeaks information?
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01-05-2013 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Almost every other post you've made in this thread doesn't have to be squinted at very much to be seen as protecting the perpetrators. How could this be un premeditated with the information on LocalLeaks site? How could this be at all the victims fault based on the LocalLeaks information?
did anyone admit to using a rape drug?
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01-05-2013 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
did anyone admit to using a rape drug?
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On August 27, 2012 two members of the Big Red High School football team in Steubenville, Ohio – USA were arrested and charged with the rape and kidnapping of an out of town 16 year old girl that took place on August 11th. At the time of this gang rape, the girl was intoxicated and unconscious. The victim had been intentionally drugged with a “date rape” intoxicant. She was photographed and video was taken of her in this condition, and there is evidence that she was hauled in a comatose state to multiple parties – and almost certainly raped by more members of the local high school football team than just the two players who currently stand charged. There is even evidence that she was urinated upon during this hideous assault.
From the LocalLeaks site
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01-05-2013 , 12:40 AM
rape crew seems like srs business
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01-05-2013 , 12:50 AM
yeah, this has been pretty huge news in the ohio high school football community for a long while now. there was a 3,000 post thread on a high school football site here where a LOT of the big red posters were literally more concerned with "people trying to make the football team look bad" than anything else. i think it eventually got locked or deleted, lemme see if i can find it.
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01-05-2013 , 12:55 AM
http://www.jjhuddle.com/forums/showt...ubenville+rape

this is the thread. 2300 posts, started on august 20th when it started to come out...really long and meandering in some spots, but if anyone wanted to read more.

steubenville 'big red' fans are known for being insane about their football team. i think i read a little in the fall about it, then got pissed about how they were more concerned with how it would affect the football team than anything so i stopped reading it.

also, all of the accused were playing well into the season.

also part 2: coaches were involved in the coverup.

Last edited by wiper; 01-05-2013 at 01:00 AM.
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01-05-2013 , 12:59 AM
crazy thing is that that site is pretty good about keeping nonsense out. people talking bad about high school kids are quickly booted. it's a really clean place, just reading that first page...eww.
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01-05-2013 , 01:36 AM
Obviously horrible in every way imaginable, but do we know that photo of the guys holding the girl is from the actual rape? For all we know, it could be some kids clowning around.
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01-05-2013 , 01:39 AM
supposedly the picture isn't her passed out. it was a joke picture and her friends said that at that point she wasn't drugged/passed out, just posing for a picture.
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01-05-2013 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Graham
Stupid post. Isn't always parents fault.
The entire reason this was kept hush hush from the rest of the country was the parents fault.



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The Honorable Jane Hanlin is a Prosecuting Attorney for Jefferson County and the mother of Big Red football player Charlie Keenan, who is suspected of being a member of “The Rape Crew”.
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01-05-2013 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
Yeah, maybe she was asking for it.
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Originally Posted by NDfan
Sick to think that's probably the defense of some of these local scumbags.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...pe-crew/60502/


Perhaps one quote, from one of Steubenville High's 19 football coaches, best summed up the controversy:

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"The rape was just an excuse, I think ...What else are you going to tell your parents when you come home drunk like that and after a night like that? She had to make up something. Now people are trying to blow up our football program because of it."
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01-05-2013 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RosieTheGreat
At face value this seems pretty bad, but then again so did the duke lacrosse boys.

OBV this is much worse and with more evidence blah blah blah but im still holding off judgement till later.
Meh, I'll just take the guy's word for it when he admits (multiple times) to raping her on video. Drunk kids at parties tend to be open and honest.

It's going to be hard for the chick that was passed out for hours to admit is was consensual, yes?
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01-05-2013 , 04:17 AM
did she have a rape kit done? if she didn't have a rape kit done it's not going to be easy to prove any of this :/
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01-05-2013 , 04:19 AM
probably not since she didn't find out until a week afterwards.

but a detailed confession video might sway some people.
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01-05-2013 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
did she have a rape kit done? if she didn't have a rape kit done it's not going to be easy to prove any of this :/
Nah, I don't think these kids' families are wealthy enough to get a lawyer that is able to dismiss what is essentially a videotaped confession.
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01-05-2013 , 04:22 AM
The video of the kid talking for 12 minutes was utterly disturbing to me.

Absolutely horrible story.
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01-05-2013 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
The video of the kid talking for 12 minutes was utterly disturbing to me.

Absolutely horrible story.
Why was it disturbing it's just "locker room boy talk".


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Walter Madison the defense attorney for defendant Malik Richmond called all the boasting, picture taking/exchanging and back and forth tweets about the rape “locker room boy talk.”
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01-05-2013 , 05:56 AM
wow made it through the whole 12min confession video. so ****ed up.
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01-05-2013 , 06:06 AM
It's going to be really sad to see what kind of pathetic excuse the defence will come up with after being caught telling the truth. Something about this case just makes me so angry. I'd really like to see these guys explain themselves live on CNN or whatever the biggest news show is in the USA. I want to see these guys cry and beg for mercy and then to be told no and that they will suffer for this. Maybe even castrate them. No way any of these guys would be allowed to have kids.
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01-05-2013 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by IcyHotMonkey
reference post #12.

what makes it too soon to want to know if it was premeditated?
How is it possible to give someone date rape drug, wait until their out cold and rape them, and it not be pre meditated? The rape was not spontaneous. It was planned for at least as long as it took the drugs to take effect.
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01-05-2013 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by crispin1003
It's going to be really sad to see what kind of pathetic excuse the defence will come up with after being caught telling the truth. Something about this case just makes me so angry. I'd really like to see these guys explain themselves live on CNN or whatever the biggest news show is in the USA. I want to see these guys cry and beg for mercy and then to be told no and that they will suffer for this. Maybe even castrate them. No way any of these guys would be allowed to have kids.
While I am beyond disgusted with the young men that did this, my seething contempt is mostly aimed at the prosecutor or also happens to be one of the alleged perpetrators' mother, the coaches, the sheriff, and all the other adults that are covering this up-- for the sake of what? A high school football program?

I think it is very important to not jump to conclusions and allow accusations to be just as damning as convictions (which I do think is a serious problem in sexual violence cases), but when someone close to you is accused, you don't cover it up. You don't use your position to convince the girl and her parents to not press charges. You remand yourself from the case, and let the justice system play out as it will. This sort of cover-up, of a rape, perpetrated by someone in a position of power such as this Hanlin lady, should be punishable in the harshest way.
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01-05-2013 , 07:39 AM
its tilting me that somebody keeps asking this over and over...
this is from the link provided in the OP:
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Mark is one of Cody Saltsman’s best friends. Together with Saltsman, they are the ones who hatched the plot to lure the victim to the parties where she was viciously assaulted. Mark agreed to convince his girlfriend Makenzie Santoro to lure the victim to these parties because she was friends with the victim. Make no mistake, their intent was to do her harm as revenge for the victim having broken up with Saltsman. It is unlikely that Cole committed any of the multiple rapes on the victim, as both he and Santoro (his girlfriend) were together through out the entire episode. They are however BOTH guilty of accessory and conspiracy to commit rape and kidnapping.
One thing that is confusing me is that a lot of the tweets at the end of the Anon video are dated ~April 10th, several months before this particular event occurred...
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