There was an article about this in Maxim last month, including club names details for invites, if anyone wants more info

Swingers meet ups would be fun, except for the parts where I have to watch my wife get ****ed by another dude, or when I am expected to put my penis in a dude's ass (or vice versa). So yeah, guess the only exciting part is the prospect of guilt-free sex with a strange female.

You don't have to do anything, and a ton of swingers clubs have no male-male sexual contact.

Most do have female-female sexual contact. I've heard it's actually a thing that bi guys are sometimes excluded from swingers clubs but I don't know how true that is.

But yeah you don't have to do a damn thing. Swingers tend to try very hard to make it a very laid back environment with no pressure for anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

Because I'd assume that this group of people would be rather open minded / progressive / accepting / etc., this bit surprises me. Why would they prohibit male on male action?

I don't know that it's prohibited per se, although again I've heard rumors to the effect that bi guys are sometimes excluded or made to feel unwelcome.

I don't know that it's because swingers, as a group, necessarily have a problem with male-male sex, but that male bisexuality is still not as accepted as female bisexuality so less men are willing to acknowledge it.

I really don't know the full answer here, probably some psychosocial issues at work that are too complex to get into. For the record, AFAIK the club I went to allowed male-male contact, but I didn't see any and got the impression that none of the guys there were bi, although many of the women were.

I mean consider that for a guy watching two women is a standard thing, but the reverse is not considered true for women. I think there's generally more societal discomfort with male-male sexual contact, and that may lead to some places discouraging it, particularly when they are trying to make the women as comfortable as possible (the standard narrative for swingers is that it's the men who convince women to try it, and then the women who convince the men to keep doing it).

When you go to a swinger club, must you enter with a partner? I can't imagine them allowing a random dude to go in by himself.


And to what RJ just said about dudes watching girl-girl but the opposite not necessarily being true, do ANY women watch dude-dude to masturbate to? Like, a single one?

yes

It's funny how little dudes know about women.

It's good that they know so much. Compensation for being so small.

I have discussed and watched porn with more than ten women, and not one of them were remotely interested in gay porn. Even the few who wouldn't be with a woman themselves at least somewhat enjoyed lesbian porn. Not a large sample size, I know.

This was meant to quote FeralCreature.

I believe Elaine explained this phenomenon best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9v8hcAezkk

I know of at least one ex-gf of mine who was into gay porn, although she recently said it was a phase and she hasn't watched any in a while. Also I suspect women enjoy going to gay parties not only because they feel safe that they won't get harassed.

On the other hand, studies have shown that women will get aroused by monkeys ****ing, so there seems to be little that doesn't turn them on.

Actually, its rather hard to test whether women are in fact aroused (other than bodily) so I'd be interested in seeing how they tested this. Go to method is measuring blood flow with a light sensor which can only really measure bodily arousal which is known not to be super accurate for women. Monkeys ****ing still kind of straight conventional sex and arousal worthy.

Link: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/di...sex-literally/

Many sex stories you guys would find weird but they're all normal to me, I'm a bit of a freak.

Actually feel fairly put out just by hearing the idea that some swingers clubs discourage bisexual dudes. If there's ever a safe, private atmosphere in which to explore your sexuality.... jeez.

An ex-gf of mine liked gay porn. I've heard of a few. Almost certainly fewer than men. I'm not sure you can say that the reason straight guys seem to love lesbians is because of the lack of men - I'm bisexual and lesbian porn is just the best thing in the world ever to me.

There's a quote from House of Cards. 'Everything in life is about sex, apart from sex, which is about power'. When I was 20 and dating a 17-yo, I came in her eye without warning her. Never felt more alpha. Fortunately we're still friends, and I don't do those sorts of things anymore without permission. She's also a freak, so yaknow.

Hope you are still here because I wonder what you find about the act bizarre.

Of course it's bizarre. If you think about it on some level all our bodily functions are bizarre. Not liking it is weird though cause it feels good.

The problem is that women don't necessarily get psychologically aroused when they get genitally aroused. E.g. a woman being aroused during an actual rape. So you can say women are becoming wet at a certain rate while watching monkeyporn but you can't conclude that it turns them on psychologically (arousal other than genital, aka that 'they like it').

Some swingers clubs will allow select single men. Single women are pretty much universally allowed.

I believe the one I went to had a single black male there. I didn't see him leave with anyone or seem to hang with anyone in particular. I did see him in a threesome, and as being with a black guy is something of a common white female fantasy, I believe he was there although single for that purpose.

He could have been with a partner I just never observed, however, that was just my conjecture.

And as to lhe later question, you've already been told but the answer is yes. There was a study about this some years ago (I saw the study, not the results) but I'm uncertain what conclusions, if any, were ever reached.

Don't you mean it is a commonly accepted myth that white women want to be with black men?

I mean I think myth is too strong a word.

I have zero numbers on this and I don't necessarily think it's a fantasy a majority of women have, but it's common enough to be fairly standard IMO. I've certainly met women who have fantasized (or acted on that fantasy) about it.

The weirdest sex I've ever seen was in a sex club, I saw a threesome with a guy a girl and a transexual the girl was bent over with the tranny having sex with her and then the guy was having sex with the tranny all anally. The tranny was tiny and looked like a woman apart from the penis and the guy and girl were both fat.

Also saw some fat women having their boobs tied up with rope until they were purple.


I didn't join in just watched but never got an erection the whole time I was there.

I think the women want to experience something bigger and since black men are thought to be more well endowed.

The weirdest sex I've ever seen was a film clip where the actress devours a cooked omelette made entirely of



The weirdest sex I've ever had happened years ago. The girl was sucking my cock while I was lying on a bed. Then she sat up and pulled me with her, pulling me into her mouth while she was then lying down. There was no gagging (I'm finely equipped if you're wondering), but throat ****ing a kind lady is something I didn't expect would happen.