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Old 08-04-2011, 11:55 PM   #121
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Re: Words with Friends (WWF) - Containment /Strat Thread

121 points is pretty good right? Sorry, fly. Except, y'know, not.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:09 AM   #122
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Strategy tips:

1. Learn all of the 2 letter words and as many of the 3 letter words as you can. You can find them at this link.
2. Never waste 's' tiles. Unless you have like 3 of them in your rack, are bridging off another word, or are reaching a double/triple word with it, you're probably wasting it.
3. On your turn, look first for what double/triple letter/word squares are available to you. Then look at what words you can make to best utilize those squares. The goal is to score the most points, not make the longest words.
4. Don't allow your opponent to hit the triple world squares. Always assume they have it, especially when they only need an 's' to bridge a new word. If this means playing a word for a much smaller score, so be it.
5. Try to keep a decent balance of letters in your rack. Sometimes this means using up vowels or consonants at the expense of a few points on the current team.
6. Be careful of putting vowels next to double/triple squares, especially on the first word. 'RATED' may seem spiffy because you're using a double word, but when your opponent plays 'ZA' or 'OX' depending on placement, you'll already be down 44 or 36 to 12. Not good.
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:12 AM   #123
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Eh, just read a scrabble strat book and it's essentially the same. Although the wwf board is set up differently enough that some adjustments must be made. It incentivizes a certain style of play that effectively makes most of the board unusable which is really effing annoying and not very fun. Also, given the placement of bonus tiles, it gives a pretty sick advantage to anyone lucky enough to get J, Q, Z, especially now that Q and Z have two letter words available (in the OSPD3 they didn't, making Q a letter you wanted off your rack ASAP).
I love playing control style scrabble! That is probably because I am a huge jerk and stuff.

This WWF sounds fun if I can block off all high value tiles with lame short words like in scrabble
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:28 AM   #124
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I'm in if there's a tournament. Kevin8423
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:00 AM   #125
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I gave up on WWF because too many people cheat, then I call them out on it and it becomes awkward
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:29 AM   #126
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Yeah, but putting down 1-3 letters for 10 points and a ****ty rack is often not as valuable as paying 10 points for the potential to get some good letters to play with.
You could be right.

But how many tiles are you swapping? More than 3? I also don't swap to block the opponent w/ my ****ty 10pt. word.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:55 AM   #127
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Surely we can do better than "assume someone always has it." We need to do some range merging, possibly double and triple range merging.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:21 AM   #128
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assume they never have it

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Old 08-05-2011, 10:42 AM   #129
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assume they never have it

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when i risk it my internal monologue is actually "gambol gambol"
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:19 AM   #130
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I gave up on WWF because too many people cheat, then I call them out on it and it becomes awkward
yeah this is pretty common among all games that simulators are better than most or all humans. backgammon, chess, scrabble etc. thank god poker isn't at that point.

to find out the best play in WWF, quackle should work. its the best scrabble sim out there. i don't have a copy on this computer, but iirc the board and bonus squares are custom. i don't remember if you can change tile values and using all your tiles bonus. regardless it's much better than those anagram solver things because it factors in optimal strategy as well.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:42 AM   #131
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:55 AM   #132
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there's a WWF specific site where you can just plug in the whole board as you play. i checked it out once when i was doing investigative work on one of my opponents.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:24 PM   #133
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there's a WWF specific site where you can just plug in the whole board as you play. i checked it out once when i was doing investigative work on one of my opponents.
I did some poking around, and you probably mean this http://www.lexicalwordfinder.com/

that will be enough to beat the vast majority of players, but it seems like it doesn't produce the best plays, just the highest scoring one
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:27 PM   #134
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there's a WWF specific site where you can just plug in the whole board as you play. i checked it out once when i was doing investigative work on one of my opponents.
Yeah, somebody linked a few of them in the LC thread. I can't imagine taking the time to enter in my whole board for each of the ~15 games I'm playing, though. Though now that WWF has a FB app I imagine somebody will make a Chrome plugin that automatically pulls the board from that and officially ruin the game.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:33 PM   #135
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i meant this but obviously there are a ton :

http://www.scrabulizer.com/
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