i learned that style from offTopic. he was smashing me every game and never leaving any opportunities open. i started to follow suit and now the games are a lot closer, though he still mostly beats me. actually now that i think about it i may have never beaten him.

Dropped "Pluton" the other day for 72 pts, that was a pleasant surprise.

I don't think I've ever beaten him either, but my win rate against 2p2ers is pretty bad.

It takes some of the fun out of though imo. It's not like we're playing for money. Making big words is the most fun aspect to the game.

I try to open up the board unless it exposes me to some huge triple-triple obv. I figure I have a pretty good vocabulary so I might have an edge on an expanded board anyway.

That tends to put you at the mercy of the tiles, though. I find open boards fun, but I can't help but try to close things down when I have a lead...I think the poker player in me likes to minimize the luck aspect of the game as much as I can.

It's not like defensive play can't be fun, I do appreciate a play where the opponent recognizes the vulnerable bingo lines and the tiles I have left in the endgame and makes a perfect blocking move. Or when they manage to work around the block, like the time I had a late 30-point lead on offTopic, dutifully made a word parallel to the only open tiles on the board and drew the last few tiles, then watched him extend the ER I just made into CLATTERER for the upset. @#$%...

I just lost a game by one point having a 14 point lead with one letter left, and my opponent played HERO for 15 to win. In the rematch after he played SHEEN. I tried to counter with Tebow, but was missing the W.

ETA: the 4th game in my last 10 log was you beating me on 12/30. The games do tend to run together, I'm sure it's happened before.


There's a math element that I don't see brought up too much...it isn't pure defense for me for the sake of keeping the board closed. I'll open it up but I am hoping to have two big hits to my opponent's one, if that makes any sense.

The games really seem to swing on who can get the TL/TW combos. Your opponent can get the other TW in that same corner, but not the TL.

IMO, hooking those two DWs in the next adjoining row/column is super risky. I used to really try to get that, but it seems to only open up both TW corners.


Ha! I remember that, but I'm still like .250 against you

Against you and El_Timon (my two most intense opponents, probably) I feel like I've played very .500-y, maybe a bit above. Probably selective (pessmistic) memory on both our parts.

I used to hate to play defensive but I found it the only way for me to beat good players because I don't have a strong vocabulary compared to oT and Gman, for example.

One of my friends has fancy word syndrome and he would play a big word even if it means opening up the TW/TL spots. No wonder he's beaten me once in over 10 games.

I've learned this the hard way lately. I played this a couple of times for ~40 points just to get burned by someone playing the TW/TL combo. The key is to hit those spots with letters like C,V, or K (at the top) where you can't make an easy 2-letter word score.

This highlights the variance aspect of WWF. I'm on a .200 run against you and oT lately, but also had a ~4 game winning streak before against both of you. Just like in poker, the variance aspect is what makes it entertaining in particular when you're not as good as the competition.

i went (approx) .500 v annette over about 100 games and then literally lost what must have been somewhere around 14 out of 15. i think she got a bit better and i was playing a bit worse (and running horrific obviously), but whatever happened, it was wild.

It's weird how the streaks and variance are so analogous to poker. The feeling of falling behind by 75 pts early for the 3rd game in a row is eerily similar to when I would start off a session by having big pairs crushed 2x in the first orbit...it's that whole "how did I ever win at this game" feeling.

Definitely. You've seen me complaining about the runbad, but it was really frustrating when for a few games all I had was low scoring tiles.

Since I'm already complaining, I just wanted to say that I hate the U with passion.

it really tilts me that the words app doesnt track "stats" like your overall record, record vs. certain opponents, highest game, and highest single word...any of you guys track that on your own or kmow of another app or anything that tracks this?

also, anyone play words for money? if so how? something like in pool when you do like x amount for every point you lose by, x ammount to the winner in 2 of 3, or x amount for a single game? all of them seem pretty fun, everything is always more fun when you wager on it imo

I have a triple word all lined up for FLAP where the P is on a triple letter and used in PI also, and the A completes the word AJAR. It's worth 83 points, and can only be ****ed up if my opponent has the last remaining A necessary to use that space. Of course, she does. FFFUUUUUUUU

Words for money would b e tough because it is SO EASY to cheat in this game, and I am convinced some people cheat vs me when they make about 30 words in a game that I ahve never heard of.

my friend comes from a scrabble background (aka didn't just start playing wwf with the iphone) and he was all about betting $/point...he's better than me, so i declined.

although now we just keep track in the chat at the start of each game

anybody here play on ISC and have a rating to share?

yea thats a good point, although i generally only play against good freinds who i trust so wouldnt be an issue, but yea probably couldnt really play randos for money

Some day I hope to get the elusive triple/double-word combo with an 8+-letter word. It is my holy grail.

Just added "doer" to "evil" over a TW vs. deucesdeuces. Felt dirty.

Also I sent a challenge to curtains. I have a feeling he would be slightly good at this.

One of my former coworkers has definitely started cheating against me. I crushed him in our first game together like 500-150 because he was playing **** like THERE left and right for 7-15 points and opening up a triple word. We played a rematch which he won and I suspected he was cheating. Now we have 3 games going and he has played ZECHIN for a triple word, FEAZE for another triple, KAHUNA etc. For someone who played borderline ******ed for an entire game this is pretty suspect. So after I win these last games I think I'll decline rematches.

He is 100% cheating. Any time people start playing crazy J/Q/Z words after a showing like the 500-150 its a lock they are.

I started playing against my brother-in-law's brother and he's cheating like fiend. In real life he's a 50 year old nickel miner with a Grade 9 education. In WWF he's a wizard who can weave the letters of obscure words through existing tiles for massive points every turn.

Either he's cheating or he has the world's lamest superpower.

I just truly don't understand brazen cheating like that haha. What on earth is going through the persons head?

They buy an app for $2 and it just spits out the best words so it's no work at all really.

this response exhibited as much thought as these people put into cheating (or is a brilliant observation by emulating that thought process). the question if it's going to be super obvious that you are cheating, why even bother doing it?

i really have no idea. maybe they think you are also cheating and so they are just counter-cheating?