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Old 06-19-2012, 10:56 PM   #751
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So apparently bouldering in a gym is more dangerous than outdoors?

Fine, I'm in troll mode, w/e.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:15 PM   #752
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I think it depends how you define 'dangerous'

A climber may think because its indoors the risk of injury is practically non-existent and will take risks that they would not outdoors. You can still twist an ankle or break a bone from a fall in the gym. Its not as likely due to the floors, but it does happen.

While outdoors there are going to be more things to fall on so even a careful climber can slip and fall on a rock or something else that wouldn't exist in a gym.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:24 AM   #753
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add me to the list of dudes that has sprained/twisted an ankle bouldering indoors...about an hour ago i got to the final move of a v3 i've been working for a few days and jumped a bit for the top, missed, and landed half on half off the pad...felt fine for a few minutes then my ankle started to hurt a little. now i can barely walk
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:32 AM   #754
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for the record I cracked my rib fishing! (as if thats better)

Ive seen a broken bone and a ton of ankle injuries (like ure in a boot for 2 months) from people hurting themselves while bouldering in the gym. *shrug*
There was also that tree stump incident you had that literally makes my ******* pucker every time I see this thread bumped. Sorry that happened to you dude, but I'm more sorry that I know it happened at all.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:00 AM   #755
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There was also that tree stump incident you had that literally makes my ******* pucker every time I see this thread bumped. Sorry that happened to you dude, but I'm more sorry that I know it happened at all.
there is a route at paynes called 'Dancing on a Skewer' that was "named for Martyn Clark's efforts on the route that lead to an anal intervention and him abandoning the project" (quote from the guidebook)
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:07 AM   #756
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add me to the list of dudes that has sprained/twisted an ankle bouldering indoors...about an hour ago i got to the final move of a v3 i've been working for a few days and jumped a bit for the top, missed, and landed half on half off the pad...felt fine for a few minutes then my ankle started to hurt a little. now i can barely walk
very same thing happened to a gal I've climbed with. If the pad hadn't been there she would have been fine, but because of the pad the angle got all f'd up.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:06 AM   #757
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Indoor pads are called anklebreakers for a reason.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:53 AM   #758
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More like retard anklebreakers. The only people who break their bones indoors are people with no control and novices.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:58 PM   #759
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More like retard anklebreakers. The only people who break their bones indoors are people with no control and novices.
you don't know what your talking about, and don't spout obvious rubbish that can be detrimental to less experienced climbers safety.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:32 PM   #760
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you don't know what your talking about, and don't spout obvious rubbish that can be detrimental to less experienced climbers safety.
I wasn't bashing the safety about it. I was bashing the idea that experienced climbers were getting broken bones in indoor gyms.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:37 PM   #761
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I wasn't bashing the safety about it. I was bashing the idea that experienced climbers were getting broken bones in indoor gyms.
Because experienced individuals can never have accidents in their respective fields. Thats unpossible! Absolutely everything is under their control at all times.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:46 PM   #762
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Because experienced individuals can never have accidents in their respective fields. Thats unpossible! Absolutely everything is under their control at all times.
I know that accidents happen. I am just saying that when you are only 20-25ft up with big pads underneath experienced climbers have a lot less risk, obviously. They know how to fall and, for the most part, have a lot of control.

I am just saying is there are not as many accidents as people are insinuating there are to be.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:40 PM   #763
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in order of danger imo...

soloing > trad > sport > bouldering (high balling excluded) > indoor bouldering > indoor toproping. outdor tr can probably lie anywhere depending on whos setting the anchor
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:17 PM   #764
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I know that accidents happen. I am just saying that when you are only 20-25ft up with big pads underneath experienced climbers have a lot less risk, obviously. They know how to fall and, for the most part, have a lot of control.

I am just saying is there are not as many accidents as people are insinuating there are to be.
Slipping off a hold and landing with half of your foot on a pad and rolling your ankle is really really common.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:13 AM   #765
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I know that accidents happen. I am just saying that when you are only 20-25ft up with big pads underneath experienced climbers have a lot less risk, obviously. They know how to fall and, for the most part, have a lot of control.

I am just saying is there are not as many accidents as people are insinuating there are to be.
There are not heaps of accidents for sure. They do happen though. Just like car accidents can happen when driving to the crag. Biggest two sources of rock climbing accidents that cause serious injury are probably at either end of the experience spectrum. 1 = ignorance and inexperience and simple mistakes 2 = complacency and big-time mistakes.

Also, when you say 25 feet off the deck, do you mean your feet are that high up? As soon as you start falling regularly with your feet 8 metres off the deck you start getting into all sorts of interesting times - i remember a friend coughing up blood at the end of a day taking repeated falls off a highball.... Anyway, accidents happen sometimes. I agree that experienced boulderers typically land better, fall better, set up pads smarter, have more intelligent spotting going on, etc. But they are also likely to more often climb high and dangerous problems.

anyway, less blah about climbing accidents, more trip reports?
it snowed to sea level here again yesterday, I haven't climbed outside in over a fortnight. Off to the local bouldering cave, gotta get cellar-strong:
http://room14.50webs.com/

re safety, when someone comes to rm 14 to climb and hasn't climbed there before we give them a quick safety rundown. Takes about 3 minutes. Mostly explaining about avoiding people landing on top of your head, not climbing above people or walking/climbing under people on the wall. Then getting them to jump off the wall from gradually increasing heights just to get used to the pads. Oh, and sometimes we remember to mention warmups and that holds might spin from time-to-time.
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