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RIP Chester from Linkin Park :( RIP Chester from Linkin Park :(

07-21-2017 , 01:52 PM
A national holiday for suicide remembrance would be good.
07-21-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
lol you. off your ****ing high horse.

you think he wants to hurt his little girls/children? you believe he wants to crush his wife/family?

the monster that raped and abused him when he was a child is the selfish one.

fk some ppl.


So im on a high horse because i understand that part of being a good parent is putting aside your personal issues for the childrens best interest? I understand he was abused as a child, thats horrible, but it didnt stop him from becoming a successful millionaire now did it? He had a ton of resources to get help but he chose to drown himself in drugs. You asked do i think he wanted to hurt his wife/kids? The fact is he didnt think about them at all when he took his life, and if he did think about them before killing himself then thats even worse.
07-21-2017 , 02:32 PM
While suicide is inherently a selfish act, most of the time it is the manifestation of mental issues. These people - or rather the memory of them - don't deserve our scorn but our sympathy.
07-21-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
So im on a high horse because i understand that part of being a good parent is putting aside your personal issues for the childrens best interest? I understand he was abused as a child, thats horrible, but it didnt stop him from becoming a successful millionaire now did it? He had a ton of resources to get help but he chose to drown himself in drugs. You asked do i think he wanted to hurt his wife/kids? The fact is he didnt think about them at all when he took his life, and if he did think about them before killing himself then thats even worse.
sounds simple doesn't it. let me put aside these mental issues, these demons that have been haunting me and literally driving me crazy, to near suicide, my entire life, in this little box on my nightstand and go take on this crazy world head-on.

news flash: mental illness doesn't work like this HORUS. go educate yourself on the subject.

also, why are you commenting on what mental health assistance Bennington has or hasn't sought. were you his doctor or psychologist? GTFO with that ****.

/my posts itt not reflecting on Bennington's life. RIP.
07-21-2017 , 03:07 PM
A lot of people don't realize that it's often a heavier burden having a family while sick than being sick alone.
07-21-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
While suicide is inherently a selfish act, most of the time it is the manifestation of mental issues. These people - or rather the memory of them - don't deserve our scorn but our sympathy.
Well said...RIP Chester
07-21-2017 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
While suicide is inherently a selfish act, most of the time it is the manifestation of mental issues. These people - or rather the memory of them - don't deserve our scorn but our sympathy.
So much this. So many people who don't deal with depression think it's just something you can shrug off and move on from. News flash, that's not how it works, AT ALL. Depression is a serious mental disorder that needs special individual treatment to help someone cope with. You can't read a book on how to get over it and that be that. Depression is normally rooted in very painful things that have been buried for a very long time. Those with significant depression can find it incredibly difficult to even live there life one hour at a time.

So many people hide their depression until it's to late because society has made very unwelcoming for someone to admit they have a mental disorder.
07-21-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
So im on a high horse because i understand that part of being a good parent is putting aside your personal issues for the childrens best interest? I understand he was abused as a child, thats horrible, but it didnt stop him from becoming a successful millionaire now did it? He had a ton of resources to get help but he chose to drown himself in drugs. You asked do i think he wanted to hurt his wife/kids? The fact is he didnt think about them at all when he took his life, and if he did think about them before killing himself then thats even worse.
He could very well have convinced himself that his family was better off without him. Depression causes an individual to think that they are a burden on everyone around them.
07-21-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
sounds simple doesn't it. let me put aside these mental issues, these demons that have been haunting me and literally driving me crazy, to near suicide, my entire life, in this little box on my nightstand and go take on this crazy world head-on.

news flash: mental illness doesn't work like this HORUS. go educate yourself on the subject.

also, why are you commenting on what mental health assistance Bennington has or hasn't sought. were you his doctor or psychologist? GTFO with that ****.

/my posts itt not reflecting on Bennington's life. RIP.
He sure did a good job becoming successful despite his past issues. I guess they just didnt affect him as much as you think during his rise to the top. Maybe chris cornell was his secret lover? He dies shortly after him and in the same way. He was also his sons godfather. Pretty close relationship. Not trolling thats just my speculation.

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Originally Posted by HawkFanIA
He could very well have convinced himself that his family was better off without him. Depression causes an individual to think that they are a burden on everyone around them.
this death should just showcase what harm drugs do to people. Had he lived a sober life i believe he would have dealt with his past easier. Being an alcoholic (a downer) doesnt make things any better.
07-21-2017 , 05:17 PM
^That's the worst post itt.
07-21-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
He sure did a good job becoming successful despite his past issues. I guess they just didnt affect him as much as you think during his rise to the top. Maybe chris cornell was his secret lover? He dies shortly after him and in the same way. He was also his sons godfather. Pretty close relationship. Not trolling thats just my speculation.



this death should just showcase what harm drugs do to people. Had he lived a sober life i believe he would have dealt with his past easier. Being an alcoholic (a downer) doesnt make things any better.
jfc stop posting.
07-21-2017 , 05:59 PM
Dude leaves the responsibility of 6 kids to other people and instead of calling a spade a spade you guys rather put this guy on a pedestal because he is dead. Id love to hear you guys explain to his kids "daddy had mental illness, its a serious issue but you will understand eventually" smh. Yea ill stop posting because im obviously the only one here who isnt emotionally invested and can post from an outside looking in perspective.
07-21-2017 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
because im obviously the only one here who isnt emotionally invested and can post from an outside looking in perspective.
Dude, until yesterday I had no idea this guy even existed, I cannot name a Linkin Park song, if I heard a song that was by them I wouldn't know it unless someone told me (though I might recognize a song as having heard it before). In other words, I am not emotionally invested and have him "on a pedestal".

You are off base here. I don't believe anyone said that it wouldn't suck for his family, especially the kids. No one has given him a pass, either. Mental illness is a ***** for many reasons, but one that applies in most suicides is that they can't really see any other way or how it will affect others.
07-21-2017 , 06:27 PM
I understand when people die its sad, people should joke and he was a big part in music during my youth yr specifically but to say RIP is just dumb in my mind.
-Just my opinion but anybody who kills themselves is a coward and should burn in hell
this dude had a large family and kids and now put them at a life sentence the rest of their lives.
Pray for the innocent families that have to live with the fact their brother/father/cousin had to be so miserable and kill himself cuz hes a weakling
07-21-2017 , 06:36 PM
So your solution to mental illness is what? Be stronger? Shake it off?
07-21-2017 , 07:11 PM
Minutes to Midnight is one of my all time favorite albums. Admittedly I don't know much of their stuff from this decade, but Linkin Park is a big part of my high school/early adulthood soundtrack.
07-21-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WhatsUpGuys
I understand when people die its sad, people should joke and he was a big part in music during my youth yr specifically but to say RIP is just dumb in my mind.
-Just my opinion but anybody who kills themselves is a coward and should burn in hell
this dude had a large family and kids and now put them at a life sentence the rest of their lives.
Pray for the innocent families that have to live with the fact their brother/father/cousin had to be so miserable and kill himself cuz hes a weakling
Hell and prayer. Lol
07-21-2017 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
Dude leaves the responsibility of 6 kids to other people and instead of calling a spade a spade you guys rather put this guy on a pedestal because he is dead. Id love to hear you guys explain to his kids "daddy had mental illness, its a serious issue but you will understand eventually" smh. Yea ill stop posting because im obviously the only one here who isnt emotionally invested and can post from an outside looking in perspective.
You do realise it's people like you that are part of the reason many with mental illnesses are too worried to come out, right?

Mental illness isn't something you can just shake off, or ignore, etc. Yes there are avenues for people to explore that may give them some relief, but generally that only helps temporarily, it doesn't cure it.

Quite often, those with mental illnesses will cause issues and arguments with those they love and regret it later when they come down, leading to thoughts that the people around them are genuinely better off if they weren't there. So it's not as though they don't care about their loved ones when they turn to suicide, they believe within themselves that they are doing the best thing for all concerned.

Hopefully you'll educate yourself a bit more in the future.

RIP Chester.

Last edited by Swwiinn; 07-21-2017 at 08:57 PM. Reason: BM
07-21-2017 , 09:16 PM
This thread has some spectacularly bad posts in it.
07-22-2017 , 12:21 AM
Could you guys stop feeding the troll for ****s sake
07-22-2017 , 08:31 AM
Lol depression

He was a coward as is anyone who kills themselves.

It's so awful that he had 6 children
07-22-2017 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Dude, until yesterday I had no idea this guy even existed, I cannot name a Linkin Park song, if I heard a song that was by them I wouldn't know it unless someone told me (though I might recognize a song as having heard it before). In other words, I am not emotionally invested and have him "on a pedestal".
I'd never heard of him either. I was mocking above when I said he was a hero of mine. Still, even I know a little Linkin Park music. How can you not? They were huge for a while.
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You are off base here. I don't believe anyone said that it wouldn't suck for his family, especially the kids. No one has given him a pass, either. Mental illness is a ***** for many reasons, but one that applies in most suicides is that they can't really see any other way or how it will affect others.
Do you get a mental illness pass when you've taken enough drugs to kill a stable of horses? At some point on the drugs and alcohol train, it becomes a case of "you 100% did it to yourself".

I mean, the final act is a sad one, but most people didn't suddenly find themselves there. They made choices - to be lazy rather than work, to be shallow rather than be a good friend. To look at life as if they're owed something rather than that they owe.

Of course this doesn't apply to people whose brains **** up through no fault of their own. But it applies to some. Killing yourself is usually the last in a long line of selfish choices.
07-22-2017 , 09:44 AM
From the TMZ article:
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The singer struggled with drugs and alcohol for years. He had said in the past he had considered committing suicide because he had been abused as a child by an older male.

Chester was very close with Chris Cornell, who himself committed suicide by hanging in May. Today would have been Cornell's 53rd birthday. Chester wrote an open letter to Chris on the day of Chris' suicide.
Reading this, I think the "anguished from losing his gay lover" theory someone posted above is probably the right one.
07-22-2017 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Do you get a mental illness pass when you've taken enough drugs to kill a stable of horses?.
What do you mean by getting a pass? The dude is dead.

Of course the first time using is a choice that sets off a string of events - and future choices - but that doesn't make the final act something that one deserves.
07-22-2017 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Lol depression

He was a coward as is anyone who kills themselves.

It's so awful that he had 6 children
get cancer

      
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